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  • #64342

    NJones
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    They don’t help themselves either- tweeted last night…..

    steven shiels ‏@ShielsSteven 12h
    @wrexham gypsis in llay doing donuts in there vans right next to the cars it is stupid

    #64363

    Metalhead
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    @njones 8728 wrote:

    They don’t help themselves either- tweeted last night…..

    steven shiels ‏@ShielsSteven 12h
    @wrexham gypsis in llay doing donuts in there vans right next to the cars it is stupid

    Just bumped into a couple of this group, have to say they didn’t really come across like being part of any Ford Transit stunt display team.

    #64325

    wrexview
    Participant

    BBC News – Travellers set up on Alyn Waters Country Park in Wrexham

    Interesting piece on the BBC website, a Mr. Isted from WCBC is quoted, saying it is encroachment on the land but it is not illegal?

    #64348

    st_elswhere
    Member

    If it is not illegal that it should be.

    Is it time to fight fire with fire?

    I suggest the Alyn Waters Dung Spreading championships or maybe the local car cruising club all night all week sound off. Why make it comfortable for them?

    If they like the field so much just barricade them in. It is the councils land so if they choose to build a moat there fair play to them. If they won’t change the law to stop this sort of behaviour then it will take drastic action from a brave council to stop it happening in the area again and again. (which it is)

    #64364

    Metalhead
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    @wrexview 8731 wrote:

    BBC News – Travellers set up on Alyn Waters Country Park in Wrexham

    Interesting piece on the BBC website, a Mr. Isted from WCBC is quoted, saying it is encroachment on the land but it is not illegal?

    He also states ””However, given the scale of the encroachment we are hoping to take early legal action to remedy the issue.”

    Why would the size of this camp have any bearing on whether or not legal action is required? Surely it shouldn’t make any difference if it was 1 caravan or 100, either this activity is legal or it isn’t? :confused:

    #64326
    Chris
    Chris
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    Think it may have something to do with planning permission.

    #64355
    weasel
    weasel
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    @st_elswhere 8688 wrote:

    I hope this is a valid question. When I get car insurance I have to give a permanent address where I live and the postcode is taken into account when charging the premium.

    How do travellers get cover for their new Pick ups and 4 x 4s when they have no fixed abode? Is their cover hugely expensive? If they are giving a postcode just to get cover but not living at that address isn’t that insurance fraud?

    They don’t bother with insurance…I got rammed by one…Did a lot of damage to my car…As they weren’t insured I had to foot the bill, and suffer whiplash..

    #64367

    Llayunited
    Member

    Just been down to our pitches and they are being ruined by deliberate acts of vandalism.

    They are deliberately spinning cars to damage the pitches.

    Walking around the paths in the country park there is human poo and toilet paper on the paths.

    As I was walking across one of the paths one of the gypsies drive his van at me, but I did not move so he gave me a mouthful instead.

    #64368

    Llayunited
    Member

    This was a quote from our local councillor today in the Daily Post

    Llay county councillor Terry Bolland described the situation as “unfortunate”.

    “Travellers have the same rights as everyone else and need somewhere to go”

    Sorry if they have the same rights then they should also live by the same laws

    #64369

    Llayunited
    Member

    This is the response I have had from our local councillors who passed the buck to Wrexham Council

    I am responding to your email to Clrs Boland and Taylor regarding the matter as above. First may I reassure you that the Council is taking this very seriously and is looking as a matter of urgency into the legal powers available to it to bring this occupation of the land to an end as soon as possible. However, it is not a criminal offence for the travellers to be on the site the Council is required to follow due process to seek their removal, which involves some initial assessments of the travellers on the site and the preparation of appropriate documentation. If this is not done correctly there is more chance of challenge and delay. In the meantime officers of the Council visited the site on the morning after the encroachment and made clear to the travellers that they were trespassing on Council land and are visiting the site on a daily basis to monitor the impact. I will keep you informed of developments over the next few days.

    Regards,

    Lawrence Isted
    Head of Community Wellbeing and Development/Pennaeth Lles Cymunedol a Datblygu
    Wrexham County Borough Council/Cyngor Bwrdeistref Sirol Wrecsam

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