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January 16, 2014 at 5:50 pm #66374
IcemanParticipantThe Mayor should be unpaid. All they seem to do is take it in turns to be Mayor.
January 16, 2014 at 6:16 pm #66383
dewi73Participant@Iceman 11295 wrote:
The Mayor should be unpaid. All they seem to do is take it in turns to be Mayor.
agreed, the Mayor of Wrexham is selected from the ‘Ancient Fraternal order of Mystic Mooseheads’ or some other closed shop outfit.
January 16, 2014 at 7:51 pm #66382
MetalheadParticipantI was referring to the budget in general not just the wage. I agree with most that the current spend is obscene, surely there is scope to cut that significantly?
March 24, 2014 at 11:34 am #66380
DRParticipantBumping this back up as nominations for the new Mayor are going before the Full Council on this week:
March 24, 2014 at 7:46 pm #66385
99DylanJonesParticipantThe Mayor clearly has a role within the community and actually gives a lot of happiness and praise to the 100’s of people they see each year. That said the role and the function is fine the cost is however expensive and perhaps many of the groups visited would prefer to receive a £100 rather than a visit.
The civic function of chairing the full Council Meeting is nothing more than a formality as we have seen in recent weeks the Full Council has no powers whatsoever it is purely about the Executive so why cant the role be changed to one of Chairman of the Council to include the role of Leader as well- Two for the price of one!!March 27, 2014 at 10:47 pm #66375
IcemanParticipantThe only position of Mayor with any credibility is one where they have been voted in by the public as the Mayor. I fail to see how anybody could get excited about a visit from a councillor whose turn it is to be Mayor. It seems to me that the present system is nothing more than a popularity contest amonst councillors.
March 28, 2014 at 9:54 am #66377
MP1953ParticipantIceman
oh, and there should be more Welsh language schools in Wrexham.
More likely to be more Polish schools ;);)
March 28, 2014 at 10:09 am #66371
AlunhParticipant@Iceman 12372 wrote:
The only position of Mayor with any credibility is one where they have been voted in by the public as the Mayor. I fail to see how anybody could get excited about a visit from a councillor whose turn it is to be Mayor. It seems to me that the present system is nothing more than a popularity contest amonst councillors.
Robert Michels developed a theory in 1911 which would cover our current approach to the office of Mayor. His theory about the ‘Iron law of Oligarchy’ explained how small groups come to develop an almost elite club like approach to power if the wider public are not careful. Whilst I don’t see anything sinister about local politics I think Iceman is absolutely correct in expressing a preference for an elective position as far better than the current ‘rewarding’ approach. We must move our thinking forward in Wrexham about the way we govern OURSELVES and expect value for money at every turn. Democratic progress demands checks and balances and whilst the Mayor could well be a check on Council largesse (if it was ever the case), the fact of an elected office provides an additional check for the voting public.
March 28, 2014 at 12:29 pm #66373
johnhoppyParticipantWhilst USA politics has many shortcomings, their system of electing everyone from the Mayor to the Dog-catcher has its merits. Perhaps we should try it.
March 28, 2014 at 7:49 pm #66376
IcemanParticipant@Alunh 12380 wrote:
Robert Michels developed a theory in 1911 which would cover our current approach to the office of Mayor. His theory about the ‘Iron law of Oligarchy’ explained how small groups come to develop an almost elite club like approach to power if the wider public are not careful. Whilst I don’t see anything sinister about local politics I think Iceman is absolutely correct in expressing a preference for an elective position as far better than the current ‘rewarding’ approach. We must move our thinking forward in Wrexham about the way we govern OURSELVES and expect value for money at every turn. Democratic progress demands checks and balances and whilst the Mayor could well be a check on Council largesse (if it was ever the case), the fact of an elected office provides an additional check for the voting public.
This is really interesting. Imthink it also applies to some large organisations where your face has to fit to progress…..
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