The Groves School – Structure and Condition

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  • #107866

    wrexview
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    “The council is currently in negotiations to bring a new school to the site.” Quote from today Leader.

    At the Executive Board where the decision was made to demolish the building we were told the site would be vacant until money was available to build a school or schools , indication was that could be some way into the future . Now it appears negotiations are under way. Perhaps our original thoughts were spot on, a developer wants the building demolished as a precursor to agreeing a deal to develop. All through Faith School would be my guess.

    #107880

    99DylanJones
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    The creation of the faith school has already been listed in some details earlier in the thread by moving St Josephs, St Giles and St Marys- The Council cannot contemplate a completely new school coming to the Graves area due to lack of children — currently Rhosnessni High has gone from a 5 class entry down to three- any less pupils and it becomes unviable unless that is the Councils other intention which is close Rhosnessni and sell off their land. Either of these options are feasible on paper but the Council will be looking for the best income opportunity first and education second.
    Lets hope for the sake of the children of Wrexham that it is the Faith option as they have the best educational standards at the moment.

    #108927

    wrexview
    Participant

    The leader of the Council indicated that the Groves site would be used for a new school to accommodate children from an expanding population. It now looks like it will be a replacement school for St Mary’s primary. One primary school will not require the whole site. How will the rest of the land be utilised?

    #108936

    Councillor X
    Participant

    My suggestion of placing the Arts Hub on the site was ignored as the invisible covenant on the site restricts the use of the land for educational purposes only ………… but think of all the parking for the 10000s that will be using the Arts Hub every week!

    #108950

    R T
    Keymaster

    For those interested the Land Registry has the following information on its three quid record for the site…

    WREXHAM/WRECSAM
    1 (26.05.2010) The Freehold land shown edged with red on the plan of the
    above title filed at the Registry and being The Groves, Powell Road,
    Wrexham.
    2 (26.05.2010) The mines and minerals together with ancillary powers of
    working are excepted with provision for compensation in the event of
    damage caused thereby.
    3 (26.05.2010) The land in this title has the benefit of the rights
    granted by a Deed of Grant dated 12 November 1965 made between (1)
    Constance Olive Knowles Craig and (2) The County Council For The
    Administrative County Of Denbigh.
    NOTE:-Copy filed under CYM467577.
    4 (27.05.2010) A new title plan based on the latest revision of the
    Ordnance Survey Map showing an amended extent has been prepared.

    Further…

    1 (26.05.2010) A Conveyance of the land tinted mauve on the title plan
    and other land dated 18 May 1906 made between (1) Sir Foster Hugh
    Egerton Cunliffe and (2) The County Council Of The Administrative
    County Of Denbigh contains restrictive covenants.
    NOTE: Copy filed.
    2 (26.05.2010) A Conveyance of the land tinted blue on the title plan and
    other land dated 18 June 1913 made between (1) Sir Foster Hugh Egerton
    Cunliffe and (2) The County Council For The Administrative County Of
    Denbigh contains restrictive covenants.
    NOTE: Copy filed.
    3 (26.05.2010) A Conveyance of the land tinted pink on the title plan
    dated 1 December 1919 made between (1) Sir Robert Neville Henry
    Cunliffe (2) Henry Bucknall Betterton and Noel Middleton and (3) The
    County Council For The Administrative County Of Denbigh contains
    restrictive covenants.

    There is no site plan attached.

    #108956

    Pinky02
    Participant

    The groves site is on the new LDP out for consultation, I think it’s page 575. The whole of the site is outlined and proposed use is ‘residential’.
    It mentions site constraints but it does highlight the fact that WCBC have looked into building houses on there!

    #108957

    wrexview
    Participant

    Had a quick look at page 575, the brown area ( residential ) is on the other side of Powell Road to the Groves, it seems to be a rectangle drawn around an existing house.

    #108958

    wrexview
    Participant

    If you look at page 589 there appears to be a deliberate mistake , maybe set to see who is looking carefully at the plans !!

    #108962

    Pinky02
    Participant

    Sorry Wrexview, if you are looking at the page numbers on the bottom, The Groves is on page 544.

    #108969

    wrexview
    Participant

    You are correct page 544 does show the Groves site with a brown ( residential ) line around it.

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