The Fallacy of Building 365 New Houses in Llay.

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    The muppets in the Welsh Assembly give the instruction to build more houses and the Sheep of Wrexham Council and their planners follow their instructions even though they know it is detrimental for the village and Borough. We (i.e. Wrexham Council) must stand up to the Assembly and say NO, whatever the cost to the council. We need independence from Cardiff.
    Will 365 new houses in Llay affect the homeless situation in Wrexham – NO
    Will 365 new houses in Llay make it easier for local people to purchase NO
    Will 365 new houses in Llay result in a general price reduction – NO
    Will 365 new houses in Llay be of any benefit to the people of Wrexham – NO
    Will 365 new houses in Llay be detrimental to the local Population – YES
    Let’s take the scenario of 365 new houses, built on the commuter side/route to Chester where house prices are 40% more expensive (Chester Average £235,000 Wrexham 145,000). The Chester people see the opportunity and affordability to purchase, when they can’t in Chester. Result high demand with Llay new house prices artificially high, say £15,000 above norm. Effect – takes these new homes out of Wrexham constituents reach. Furthermore, the Chester people work & pay some taxes in England and have a lesser Welsh contribution. And here is the big hit – Local Welsh services, Doctors, Hospitals, Roads and Schools have to withstand the additional demand of an instant 20% population increase in Llay, i.e. Over 1000 (partial-contributing) people.
    There is no common sense to this proposal for the people of Llay or Wrexham, unfortunately Wrexham Council and their planners do not have the bolls (sorry) to stand up to the Welsh Assembly and to tell them why building on the Borderlands is so vastly different to building in Cardiff, Swansea or Anglesey.

    Vote the Councillors Out

    #154261

    Prior to the final decision on this matter the Councillors should read my former post shown above. Councillors should be reminded who put them in this position. Some decisions should be made on what is right for their constituents, not of the likelihood of any repercussions or potential costs. So, councillors show some guts and vote with your conscience – reject this absurd plan which will only benefit people from across the border and be detrimental to local residents.

    #154262
    Councillor X
    Councillor X
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    You start your rant by saying:
    “The muppets in the Welsh Assembly give the instruction to build more houses and the Sheep of Wrexham Council and their planners follow their instructions even though they know it is detrimental for the village and Borough.”

    And end with:
    “Vote the Councillors Out”

    If the WA give an instruction that WCBC must follow, do you want to change this to Vote the WA out”?

    A hero is someone who understands the responsibility that comes with his freedom.

    #154263
    Councillor X
    Councillor X
    Participant

    Is your forum post not a fallacy in itself because it is a failure in reasoning which renders your argument invalid?

    A hero is someone who understands the responsibility that comes with his freedom.

    #154268

    You fail to understand the thrust – The councillors and the council should make a stand against the WA whatever the cost and say NO this will not happen. The council have it in their powers to make it impossible for developers to profitably develop by implementing every planning, traffic rule environmental rule in the book.

    You are just another of the sheep that accepts everything the WA (south wales biased) dictates.

    #154272

    Llayby lilly
    Participant

    Please don’t speak for me…I want this new development, so I urge Wrexham Council to APPROVE this wonderful planning application and give other people a chance to get on the housing ladder.

    Lilly

    #154276

    Bryn6
    Participant

    Ever thought that 365 nice new houses might bring some actual wealth and desirability to Llay, which parts of, lets be honest are currently a dump.

    #154277

    Captain C
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    If someone wants to buy a house on land that is sinking due to Mining subsidence even though no investigation has been carried out by Wrexham Planning or the Welsh Assembly then good luck to them when they try to get insurance cover.
    Every one in Llay knows that the land is sinking, even the farmer that sold the land on told people on the Gresford Road that they are lucky to have a house there as they will never build on that field as it is unstable.

    Numerous coal seams are under that land and even three locomotive tunnel. It looks as if one of the locomotive tunnels has collapsed in the last couple of years and now flooding occurs in parts of the land that never flooded before.

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    Sheefag
    Sheefag
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    Question for ‘votethecouncillorsout’.

    What product do you recommend to clean spit off a monitor?

    #154282

    Council Watcher
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    Captin C the process is not about the suitability of land for housing at this stage just that housing can be built. The Building Inspectorate will check on the actual building reg. The best thing to stop the development will be once a developer trying to sell their first phase and fail. The commercial failure of selling houses will certainly stop developments of the further house building.

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