Strategic Asset Management Plan 2013-16 for Wrexham Town Centre and Markets.

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    jimbow
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    This is due to be discussed at the Executive Board Meeting of the Council on Tuesday 9th April 2013.When this was discussed by the Scrutiny Committee the General Public were invited to attend.At the Executive Board Meeting this Agenda Item 15 the public are being barred.Is this democratic?

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    jimbow;5444 wrote:
    This is due to be discussed at the Executive Board Meeting of the Council on Tuesday 9th April 2013.When this was discussed by the Scrutiny Committee the General Public were invited to attend.At the Executive Board Meeting this Agenda Item 15 the public are being barred.Is this democratic?

    No it’s not.

    Which means stitch up.

    The following people are on the exec board. They will all be hard nosed saying that they are being democratic and transparent, but will ignore the public. They are all culpable, but every single one of them will probably get voted in next time.

    Labour Group (4 Seats)

    Wrexham Independent Group (2 seats)

    Democratic Independent Group (2 seats)

    Conservative Group (1 seat)

    Liberal Democrats Group (1 seat)

    Finally the chair(neil rogers) is to blamemore than anyone.
    see … http://www.wrexham.gov.uk/english/council/committees_new/public_questions.htm

    #60369

    jimbow
    Participant

    Wayne,I went before the Executive Board and asked a question many years ago about the Markets.I was allowed 3 minutes to make my points and was replied to by the Commercial Estates Manager.The Chairperson thanked me for my visit and requested the Commercial Estates Manager to report back to the Executive Board following a meeting with the Markets Committee.This Executive Board Meeting was on 13th December 2005,and I am STILL awaiting the Commercial Estates Managers Report to the Executive Board.it just never happened.

    #60366

    wrexview
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    The Country Market stall in the People’s Market continues to do well and attracts more people into the market on Friday’s. Has the offer been made to other local producers to join them on a Friday in the People’s Market? A wonderful opportunity to make Friday’s Local Products Day. Another way of raising footfall and generating more custom for everyone in the market.

    #60371

    Welsh Dresser
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    @wrexview 5463 wrote:

    The Country Market stall in the People’s Market continues to do well and attracts more people into the market on Friday’s. Has the offer been made to other local producers to join them on a Friday in the People’s Market? A wonderful opportunity to make Friday’s Local Products Day. Another way of raising footfall and generating more custom for everyone in the market.

    Let’s hope some of the councillors read this and take it up.

    #60372

    wxm
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    Well, the agenda for Tuesday’s meeting doesn’t sound like modern Wales or modern Britain. It defers to a 1972 Act and has not readily put the report in the public domain. The rest of the agenda looks like a cut and pasted template that’s been their since the ark, and probably refers too much to the committee chair (we’ll see what we can do on the night). The nature and wording of the agenda and proceedings is out of step with more modern practices adopted elsewhere, including other authorities in the UK.

    Asset sharing and management is becoming a valuable topic and approach in the UK, and you would expect Wrexham Council to lead by example and demonstrate how its going to strengthen our community and economy by the better use of assets, and quickly before the 2015/6 greater burden on the public purse arrives.

    Valuable to see the the point made by the Town Centre Forum. Using Eagles Meadow as the example, what does £2m in business rates bring to Eagles Meadow? In the last accounts, council tax seems to be £59,145,000 (up £2m on the previous year) and Business Rates £31,361,000 (down £6m on the previous year); not very good reading.

    #60370

    jimbow
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    I do believe that the Welsh Goverment do give rate relief on premises with a rateable value of less than £6000 but this would not account for the shortfall in Wrexham of £6m on the previous year.What annoys me about the Executive Board meeting on Tuesday is the press and any business owner in Wrexham are not allowed to listen to any proposals that are being put forward by the Council that could, or could not,affect their business in the future.Why this secrecy?

    #60368
    Alunh
    Alunh
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    @jimbow 5444 wrote:

    This is due to be discussed at the Executive Board Meeting of the Council on Tuesday 9th April 2013.When this was discussed by the Scrutiny Committee the General Public were invited to attend.At the Executive Board Meeting this Agenda Item 15 the public are being barred.Is this democratic?

    Yes it is democratic but more importantly it is not necessarily wise. The way our system works is that we (A) elect individuals (B) to undertake certain tasks on our behalf. They are ultimately responsible for another set of individuals (C) who carry out the decisions made by (B). Periodically, if we don’t like what (C) do or what (B) have asked them to do (or not ensured that what they asked was effective), we (A) vote them out.

    The real problem we have, and it has been touched on by everyone on this Forum, is that we (A) don’t appear to be able to get (C) to do the job in the way that people with half a brain would expect.

    Is it because we keep voting in the SAME people (B). Wayne has introduced many interesting ideas about pressure approaches 2013 style, this Forum being one of them. For those of you with the time and inclination, get involved

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