Single Integrated Plan – Is It ‘Incredibly Readable’ ?

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  • #57356
    Sam;6415 wrote:
    Interesting, I’m not up to speed on the butler act, sorry, but I do feel that everyone should have a chance in life.
    Far to many youngsters are wrote off with stereotypical values assisted by teachers who can’t say boo to a pupil without fear of ending their career.
    At this stage in life, morals are honed ready for their release into society.
    Quite a few are launched out into the big wide world with little or no morals and backing that up with fewer basic life skills.
    How does the future local Society cope with them ?

    Don’t create them, give them something to work towards, light at the end of the tunnel and all that.

    Studied it during my A levels and my psychology degree.

    basic stuff on it…
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Education_Act_1944

    The butler act was a written by a Tory education minister during the middle of the second world war when people had other things to worry about.

    In context of a war when many kids weren’t even with their parents, it had its purpose as also during the country rebuild. But the data that supported it was flawed and perhaps even faked.

    I think it’s a fundamental human right to be given an equal chance as anyone else to succeed in life.

    Being judged at 11 whether you’re academic enough to learn a language like latin or be consigned to the scrap heap/physical labour job market is wrong. Because if you are from a poor area, it would have been less likely you would have got the schooling/teachers to have passed the 11 plus.

    Everyone deserves equality. Society deserves equality and the best people for the jobs. I find the butler act to be abhorrent and steeped in inequality..

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    wxm
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    Democracy over the endurance of time operates at local, regional, and national policy frameworks?

    What is the definition of democracy?
    Does it go something like: To be fairly and equally represented, to promote the well-being and happiness of mankind, to enable society to develop to the advantage of all its people.

    Whether it appears Tory, or Neoliberalism, the sentiment and objectivity is to give every member of society a fair opportunity.

    Democracy is for the people to decide how they wish to be ruled (from the Greek model, the people have the power to decide how to be ruled). Socialism is a system by which people determine the economics of society and method of production?

    A SINGLE INTEGRATED PLAN is the system by which the needs of a society and mankind more generally are provided for?

    We choose a system by which we are collectively represented, we choose our housing and education provision and we ensure that everyone at the start of life has equal opportunity to do so, we provide health care at the point of need without discrimination, we enable society to strive to fulfil the natural gifts of improvement, understanding of the sciences, and the betterment of our children. The single integrated plan is meant to provide equal and balanced opportunity for all. Democracy is vested in the seat of a nation which is a viable economic unit, and provides effective decision making to alter and tune democratic policies for the well-being and promotion of the local community?

    #57357

    too tory and undemocratic for me i.e. with somebody telling people how to decide rather than the people deciding how to decide.

    socialism is only democratic if the people’s decision making process leads to it, otherwise it is not democratic either.

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    wxm
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    Erm:

    1 The people decide on the system of democracy
    2 Society at its centre has a value system
    3 People develop themselves at a rate they please without detriment to others
    4 The majority decide on the course of action

    #57374

    Welsh Dresser
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    Way too intellectual for me, am off to facebook :)

    #57365

    Sam
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    @wxm 6421 wrote:

    Erm:

    1 The people decide on the system of democracy
    2 Society at its centre has a value system
    3 People develop themselves at a rate they please without detriment to others
    4 The majority decide on the course of action

    Very interesting angles here again but, on the above points with the state of play as it is currently:

    1, Not in my eyes. The ‘posh boys’ , to coin a phase, pick who, where & when. It’s all to do with boundaries, historical & representation and a lot of how much BS Joe public can consume in a certain area.
    2, Greed is currently at the centre of societies value system.
    3, Some people just opt out of mainstream society. This has been allowed for decades. Your now into 2-3 generation of forgotten kids / adults. Detrimental to others ? The welfare state is not currently getting reviewed for a laugh. The taxpayers cannot carry this burden forever!
    4, See answer #1. True representation, I don’t think I’ll ever see it in my lifetime. Too much of all the above at present to have a true level playing field.

    Re: Single integrated Plan. Not gonna work or change a thing apart from feed another bunch of Civil servants with fat salaries.
    It’s real name should be: “The lets act like a democracy, yet steer everyone like sheep Plan”.

    I’m very sceptical of Posh Boy wannabe’s deciding what’s gonna be good for my children’s future in this community!

    #57387

    wxm
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    Points firmly made, and difficult to argue with.

    Trying to be pragmatic, the only obvious step would be for a load of Martin Bell’s to stand for councillors for one term only.

    #57358
    wxm;6426 wrote:
    Points firmly made, and difficult to argue with.

    Trying to be pragmatic, the only obvious step would be for a load of Martin Bell’s to stand for councillors for one term only.

    would be for this.

    There needs to be a more long term solution though: A press that actually scrutinises the fat cats for a start.

    #57388

    wxm
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    So we need 50 or so people to stand at the next local election? And a set of clear things that they are going to do and achieve for everyone?

    #57375

    Welsh Dresser
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    Good grief don’t give me the choice of 50. Shall spend all day in the polling station trying to make a decision! : )

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