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  • #121688

    Council Watcher
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    Looks like Clr Dana Davies has been raising some very important points at Scrutiny today about the PWC contract. She did however forget to mention she was part of the controlling Labour Group at the time the contract was signed by Cllr Neil Rogers as Leader of the Council following the recommendation of the Chief Executive. Really not sure why there is a reluctance to state what the fees are as the Council has a section on their web site fir any payment over £500 yet PWC don’t seem to appear- unless someone has changed the payee name to ‘hide’ the information. https://www.wrexham.gov.uk/english/council/financial/council_payments.htm

    Wrexham Council Payments over £500
    This page contains reports of individual payments to suppliers with a value over £500 made since April 2010. Publication of these reports forms part of the Council’s commitment to be open and transparent with its residents.
    In some circumstances we are unable to give full details of payments. Names of payment beneficiaries that might reveal sensitive personal information about individuals or children in the Council’s care have been removed (Redacted Personal Data). We intend to extract the data quarterly from our financial management system

    #121692

    Nen
    Participant

    Not sure what the problem is? PWC is a quality firm providing consultancy services.

    #121696

    R T
    Keymaster

    One reader has done just that and extracted it and sent in the screen shot

    #121705

    wrexview
    Participant

    The amounts paid are increasing alarmingly, nearly a million pounds in June 2016 alone! The Leader of the Council obviously didn’t understand the details of the PWC contract when he comment to Wrexham.com in 2015 .
    Quote from article :-

    “On Tuesday Wrexham.com asked Wrexham Cllr Pritchard if PWC’s remuneration was linked to any cuts made and was told “No, no.” “

    #121710

    Council Watcher
    Participant

    Really glad that someone had better Excel skills than me– what is interesting from an accounting view point is that the Council have been splitting the costs over 4 different budget headings– has this been deliberate to deflect people from seeing the full amount easily or is it they actually have more than one contract in place. The big one which is supposed to be 10% of £45m what are they others for?
    It really does show that the management in the Council need to go as ratepayers are paying for them and now consultants to do the same role surely this is double funding or is it covering up the incompetence of the management team to get and so their job of managing change.
    PWC like most consultants generally talk to existing management and staff and then regurgitate in a format that looks like their work rather than letting managers get on and do the job.
    Hiding behind a consultant’s report when things get difficult really shows a complete lack of leadership and an inability to deal with difficult decisions.
    Nen I dont think anyone is questioning PWC proffesional ability to carry out the task the real issue is why have them in the fisrt place.

    #121752

    Nen
    Participant

    [quote quote=121710]Really glad that someone had better Excel skills than me– what is interesting from an accounting view point is that the Council have been splitting the costs over 4 different budget headings– has this been deliberate to deflect people from seeing the full amount easily or is it they actually have more than one contract in place. The big one which is supposed to be 10% of £45m what are they others for?
    It really does show that the management in the Council need to go as ratepayers are paying for them and now consultants to do the same role surely this is double funding or is it covering up the incompetence of the management team to get and so their job of managing change.
    PWC like most consultants generally talk to existing management and staff and then regurgitate in a format that looks like their work rather than letting managers get on and do the job.
    Hiding behind a consultant’s report when things get difficult really shows a complete lack of leadership and an inability to deal with difficult decisions.
    Nen I dont think anyone is questioning PWC proffesional ability to carry out the task the real issue is why have them in the fisrt place.

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    Why does any organisation buy in consultancy? To fill short term skill gaps when they are needed. It is not cost effective to permanently employ these highly paid people. They should be identifying savings that will help counteract any cuts.

    #121760

    Councillor X
    Participant

    [quote quote=121752]

    Why does any organisation buy in consultancy? To fill short term skill gaps when they are needed. It is not cost effective to permanently employ these highly paid people. They should be identifying savings that will help counteract any cuts.
    [/quote]

    Its easier to hire a hitman than to fire the bullet yourself and take the blame!

    #121762

    wrexview
    Participant

    The cuts have been deeper than necessary to accommodate the payments to PWC .

    #121763

    Councillor X
    Participant

    [quote quote=121762]The cuts have been deeper than necessary to accommodate the payments to PWC .

    [/quote]
    As P.P. Arnold once said, “The First Cut if the Deepest”!

    #121767

    wrexview
    Participant

    But the final cut is costing the most ?

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