Plaid Cymru Conference 2014

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    BenjaminM
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    Just been watching coverage of the Plaid Conference in Llangollen, televised on BBC2.
    If Plaid ever achieve a position where it holds the balance of power in the Welsh Assembly or achieves an even more influential foothold in Welsh politics, God help us all!

    #70441

    wrexview
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    There was a Labour / Plaid coalition in the Welsh Assembly in 2007 under Rhodri Morgan.

    #70443
    Alunh
    Alunh
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    @benjaminm 16014 wrote:

    Just been watching coverage of the Plaid Conference in Llangollen, televised on BBC2.
    If Plaid ever achieve a position where it holds the balance of power in the Welsh Assembly or achieves an even more influential foothold in Welsh politics, God help us all!

    Quite agree; clueless bunch. Nationalism fused with the politics of envy are not exactly my cup of tea

    #70444
    Alunh
    Alunh
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    @wrexview 16015 wrote:

    There was a Labour / Plaid coalition in the Welsh Assembly in 2007 under Rhodri Morgan.

    Except where it comes to the language issue and the question of Union there is little to separate them

    #70454

    99DylanJones
    Participant

    If language is such an issue for Plaid why then did Clr Arfon Jones leave the Council Executive meeting immediately before the report was presented in the use of Welsh in Council Services. Why could he not put forward a defence of the retention of the language as it clearly is being used by a very very small minority of residents in Wrexham wanting service information/support.
    Such a shame he did not take the trouble of defending the need for Welsh to be retained without the need for the heavy handled Welsh Language commissioners.

    #70448

    Iceman
    Member

    @99dylanjones 16028 wrote:

    If language is such an issue for Plaid why then did Clr Arfon Jones leave the Council Executive meeting immediately before the report was presented in the use of Welsh in Council Services. Why could he not put forward a defence of the retention of the language as it clearly is being used by a very very small minority of residents in Wrexham wanting service information/support.
    Such a shame he did not take the trouble of defending the need for Welsh to be retained without the need for the heavy handled Welsh Language commissioners.

    clearly being used etc…. based on your extensive research or just a sweeping statement?

    #70455

    99DylanJones
    Participant

    The full report is Agenda item 9 Agenda for Executive Board on Tuesday, 7th October, 2014, 2.00 pm – WCBC
    People can make their own mind up about usage.

    #70449

    Iceman
    Member

    A sweeping statement then.

    #70446

    BenjaminM
    Participant

    The assertion made by Dylan is indeed factual, irrespective of whether it fits in with your pro Welsh stance.
    But whilst the thread topic has digressed to encompass the Welsh language, perhaps someone would be good enough to answer the following:

    A report released by the Welsh Assembly indicates that children from English speaking homes perform less well in core subjects in Welsh medium schools than those in English medium schools.

    Does this indicate that English speaking parents are happy for their children attending Welsh medium schools to achieve an education that does not facilitate reaching maximum potential at the cost of fulfilling their ideological idiosyncrasies?

    #70445
    Alunh
    Alunh
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    @benjaminm 16086 wrote:

    The assertion made by Dylan is indeed factual, irrespective of whether it fits in with your pro Welsh stance.
    But whilst the thread topic has digressed to encompass the Welsh language, perhaps someone would be good enough to answer the following:

    A report released by the Welsh Assembly indicates that children from English speaking homes perform less well in core subjects in Welsh medium schools than those in English medium schools.

    Does this indicate that English speaking parents are happy for their children attending Welsh medium schools to achieve an education that does not facilitate reaching maximum potential at the cost of fulfilling their ideological idiosyncrasies?

    Interesting question, which also stirs a pot. I suspect that you will find, in a town like Wrexham, that parents send their children to welsh Medium skills for reasons that are above and beyond sheer educational attainment. I’ll leave that one for someone else to ponder on

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