Penycae Community Centre – Difficult Decisions Lie

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  • #140468

    flipper
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    Thank you for the clarification, it’s a shame there is so much negativity regarding this issue, and I would imagine extremely disheartening to the ones who have progressed this far. One thing is for sure Penycae isn’t a forgot place and it’s extremely heart warming there are people like yourself who come forward and commit there time so that our community benefits. Thank you all

    #140509

    zinger
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    Agreed

    #140622

    bubble
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    Can I just clarify this point for everyone, there was a meeting of the Community Centre team yesterday also attended by Community Councillors, more people have volunteered to support this project. The difficult decisions document is not lying, there was an error made when it was printed. If the Management Committee and others had not taken the time to put forward a rescue plan and create a Charitable Trust to run the Community Centre then sadly the comment would have been correct. The Management Committee and Pen-Y-Cae Community Council are working with Wrexham Council to ensure that the building is transferred to the trust with a pepper corn rent. Thank you to all who attended last night’s meeting it saw the departure of one of the driving forces Mr. Edwyn Evans who is leaving the community but also new members joining the existing committee members. There are some very committed people in our village. Alyn Thomas Chair Pen-Y-Cae Community Council

    Out of interest, if this was an error in the printing of the difficult decisions document, has anyone said what was supposed to be printed? Was it a typo?

    This is what it says:
    “A number of community centres across the county borough are now run by Community Councils. However, there are some community centres which are no longer in use, but which are still owned by the Council. It is proposed that these remaining community centre buildings (i.e. Kingsley Circle, Abenbury and Penycae) are either transferred to a third party by 31 March 2018 or considered for disposal or demolition. It is estimated this could generate savings of approximately £3,000 in 2018/19 and a further £11,000 in 2019/20”.

    Which part of it is in error?

    #140750

    Matt
    Participant

    Out of interest, if this was an error in the printing of the difficult decisions document, has anyone said what was supposed to be printed? Was it a typo?

    This is what it says:
    “A number of community centres across the county borough are now run by Community Councils. However, there are some community centres which are no longer in use, but which are still owned by the Council. It is proposed that these remaining community centre buildings (i.e. Kingsley Circle, Abenbury and Penycae) are either transferred to a third party by 31 March 2018 or considered for disposal or demolition. It is estimated this could generate savings of approximately £3,000 in 2018/19 and a further £11,000 in 2019/20”.

    Which part of it is in error?

    Council refusing to comment on what the error was – shocking PR!
    http://www.leaderlive.co.uk/home/2017/11/21/gallery/thriving-community-centre-in-penycae-saved-after-being-wrongly-earmarked-for-demolition-100398/

    #145979

    Matt
    Participant

    Well the community centre has not been saved at all. A very concerning post has been put up in the Penycae Facebook Group.

    https://m.facebook.com/groups/147297365250?view=permalink&id=10159938602445251

    Pen-Y-Cae Community Centre.

    As some of you may be aware nearly two years or more ago, the Community Council held a series of meetings designed to keep the Community informed of the decisions that were being faced in line with the changes to School Crossing Patrol and also the Community Centre.

    At that time a number of people came forward to say they wished to support keeping the Community Centre opened. With the help of Councillors Edwin Evans, Geoff Edwards and Local member Councillor Joan Lowe some considerable work was done to create a charitable organisation to take on the Community Centre. As usual the old stalwarts were there to support along with one or two other members. Unfortunately it is falling to the same small number of people again to keep this running.

    Over time there has been much discussion about keeping the Community Centre open, however with no additional support the Centre will close. The Next meeting will be Thursday 15th March 2018 at 6.30 pm, if the village wants to maintain the Community Centre then the village must work together, it is not for the Community Council to do this nor the same small band of people. Can I ask therefore if you are able to offer some support that you attend the meeting.

    Of course it seems to be the case that locals are being blamed, but the fact of the matter is we have been completely put on the back foot with the original demolition/disposal plans that were probably voted through in the budget seeing as they were in the Difficult Decisions consultation. There was no confirmation that they were removed, just some very flimsy reassurances. This is something I am going to need to look into further.

    The major problem is the 2 local Penycae councillors Lowe & Phillips are part of the ruling independent led coalition who brought forth the budget so have very little appetite to actually fight and save it.

    Also, since November there has been very little information provided from members of the community in terms of what is going on or of any fundraisers until of course it looks like it is potentially too late again.

    Budget cuts biting hard in the rural communities and who knows when town will be hit. My youngest daughter is about to start playgroup at the community centre – so we will actively paying in each week towards fees for keeping the centre open. If the centre closes the future of the playgroup will be in doubt and it is 1 of the main feeder playgroups into Penycae school.

    Direct example of young children being hit by cuts. ABSOLUTE SHAME.

    #145984

    Nen
    Participant

    Well the community centre has not been saved at all. A very concerning post has been put up in the Penycae Facebook Group.

    https://m.facebook.com/groups/147297365250?view=permalink&id=10159938602445251

    Pen-Y-Cae Community Centre.

    As some of you may be aware nearly two years or more ago, the Community Council held a series of meetings designed to keep the Community informed of the decisions that were being faced in line with the changes to School Crossing Patrol and also the Community Centre.

    At that time a number of people came forward to say they wished to support keeping the Community Centre opened. With the help of Councillors Edwin Evans, Geoff Edwards and Local member Councillor Joan Lowe some considerable work was done to create a charitable organisation to take on the Community Centre. As usual the old stalwarts were there to support along with one or two other members. Unfortunately it is falling to the same small number of people again to keep this running.

    Over time there has been much discussion about keeping the Community Centre open, however with no additional support the Centre will close. The Next meeting will be Thursday 15th March 2018 at 6.30 pm, if the village wants to maintain the Community Centre then the village must work together, it is not for the Community Council to do this nor the same small band of people. Can I ask therefore if you are able to offer some support that you attend the meeting.

    Of course it seems to be the case that locals are being blamed, but the fact of the matter is we have been completely put on the back foot with the original demolition/disposal plans that were probably voted through in the budget seeing as they were in the Difficult Decisions consultation. There was no confirmation that they were removed, just some very flimsy reassurances. This is something I am going to need to look into further.

    The major problem is the 2 local Penycae councillors Lowe & Phillips are part of the ruling independent led coalition who brought forth the budget so have very little appetite to actually fight and save it.

    Also, since November there has been very little information provided from members of the community in terms of what is going on or of any fundraisers until of course it looks like it is potentially too late again.

    Budget cuts biting hard in the rural communities and who knows when town will be hit. My youngest daughter is about to start playgroup at the community centre – so we will actively paying in each week towards fees for keeping the centre open. If the centre closes the future of the playgroup will be in doubt and it is 1 of the main feeder playgroups into Penycae school.

    Direct example of young children being hit by cuts. ABSOLUTE SHAME.

    I don’t understand this Facebook post. Alyn Thomas talks about a lack of support from the community yet when the original posts were on Facebook, loads of people were in support of the community centre and were offering help and support etc. What is Mr Thomas’ agenda here?

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