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  • #174536

    Matt
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    [quote quote=174535]Corbyn hasn’t found the “money tree” he has found a “money forrest” if he is to carry out half of the promises he made in his conference speech. Promised the world but no facts about where all the money will come from![/quote]

    Yes that’s right, Johnson’s decision was declared unlawful by 11 Supreme Court Judges, but let’s deflect and try and cast shade on Corbyn instead. Do you by any chance work for the BBC?

    #174537

    Thor
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    So go back tomorrow and Prorogue parliment till 14th Oct

    Sorted.

    Also lets see how many Labour are there

    Oh and GE with the outcome in a Manifesto.

    Corbyn said in 2017 he would honour Breixt.

    Now he is Backing Remain ( lies )

    Tory said they would back brexit and are ( not lies )

    #174539

    Matt
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    [quote quote=174537]
    Corbyn said in 2017 he would honour Breixt.

    Now he is Backing Remain ( lies )

    [/quote]

    Schrodinger’s Corbyn – Brexiteers swear he’s backing Remain and Hardcore Remain swear he’s backing Brexit.

    By logic – one of these statements cannot be true. Everyone is still getting absolutely tied in knots over Brexit.

    In terms of your other statement ALL MPs are returning to Westminster tomorrow (would be stupid not to) and the opposition are taking control of business again – the Government doesn’t have the numbers or authority to:

    i) Govern
    ii) to Prorogue Parliament Again (the Queen would be like You F*cking what?)
    iii) or Deliver Brexit

    Dead Duck Government, Dead Duck Prime Minister.

    Parliament is now likely to sit through the Conservative Conference as well so they’ve messed up recess for them to discuss party policy etc…

    #174541

    Thor
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    Schrodinger’s Corbyn – Brexiteers swear he’s backing Remain and Hardcore Remain swear he’s backing Brexit.

    By logic – one of these statements cannot be true. Everyone is still getting absolutely tied in knots over Brexit.

    In terms of your other statement ALL MPs are returning to Westminster tomorrow (would be stupid not to) and the opposition are taking control of business again – the Government doesn’t have the numbers or authority to:

    i) Govern
    ii) to Prorogue Parliament Again (the Queen would be like You F*cking what?)
    iii) or Deliver Brexit

    Dead Duck Government, Dead Duck Prime Minister.

    Parliament is now likely to sit through the Conservative Conference as well so they’ve messed up recess for them to discuss party policy etc…[/quote]

    So what’s left

    Labour Propping up a Tory Goverment. Who could if they choose under fixed term act carry the charade till 2022.

    Corbyn the Union champion has refused two GE already ( despite stating he is ready any time and Day )

    Except october No cant do October.

    Why cause he knows he will.lose and many others of all side know they will be out of a job

    #174542

    Matt
    Participant

    [quote quote=174541]

    Why cause he knows he will.lose and many others of all side know they will be out of a job[/quote]

    If this is such an open and shut case, why don’t the Tories back the SNP’s vote of no confidence they plan to table?

    They only need a majority of 1 to trigger the 2 week period before a General Election:

    That’s 288 Conservatives + 35 SNP + 10 DUP – Gives you 333 Votes > More than half of the house and enough to trigger proceedings. I think Lib Dems would also be on board.

    The SNP will roll with it because they are highly unlikely to lose seats in Scotland in this current environment.

    The same voting block would also be able to prevent any other unity Governments from forming. All Johnson would have to do is permit the SNP to hold another Indyref at some point down the line – that’s really what they are after.

    As a legality Johnson will be required to ask for an extension to Brexit in order to facilitate an election and prevent a No Deal Brexit, which has been blocked by law.

    If Lab, Lib Dems and Indys are all apparently going to lose their seats and jobs why don’t they go for it?

    #174544

    Thor
    Participant

    [quote quote=174542]

    Why cause he knows he will.lose and many others of all side know they will be out of a job

    If this is such an open and shut case, why don’t the Tories back the SNP’s vote of no confidence they plan to table?

    They only need a majority of 1 to trigger the 2 week period before a General Election:

    That’s 288 Conservatives + 35 SNP + 10 DUP – Gives you 333 Votes > More than half of the house and enough to trigger proceedings. I think Lib Dems would also be on board.

    The SNP will roll with it because they are highly unlikely to lose seats in Scotland in this current environment.

    The same voting block would also be able to prevent any other unity Governments from forming. All Johnson would have to do is permit the SNP to hold another Indyref at some point down the line – that’s really what they are after.

    As a legality Johnson will be required to ask for an extension to Brexit in order to facilitate an election and prevent a No Deal Brexit, which has been blocked by law.

    If Lab, Lib Dems and Indys are all apparently going to lose their seats and jobs why don’t they go for it?[/quote]

    Yes would be perfect
    However whats to stop labour formimg a temp governent after vote of No Con then not calling an elextion.

    Therby ruling by no eleceted means but by constitunatial means.

    However if Labour Libs are so Sure they would win seats then just back a GE no need for anything else

    And Snp yes will maintain hold on Scotland

    I do however predict a Hung parliment

    And many more going forward

    Will be a While beofre a large majority is in power again

    #174559

    DerekJackson
    Participant

    Personality politics could come into play as well with more Independents standing- if there are people in the community that have a good following for what they have done locally they could have good chance of getting in almost as a protest vote- this would split numbers but not help much with effective running of the country.

    #174560

    Transportuser
    Participant

    Interesting how quickly a posting can go off topic. This must be one of the fastest yet. :-)

    It was a legal decision, nothing to do with Brexit, money trees or anything else.
    He lied/gave bad advice, to the Queen.
    Hardly surprising from a serial liar but there we go.

    #174561

    Thor
    Participant

    [quote quote=174560]Interesting how quickly a posting can go off topic. This must be one of the fastest yet. :-)

    It was a legal decision, nothing to do with Brexit, money trees or anything else.
    He lied/gave bad advice, to the Queen.
    Hardly surprising from a serial liar but there we go.[/quote]

    So which law was Broken?

    Lying

    Best arrest every politican then as they all lie every day

    Off subject.

    The arguennt that he shut down parlimennt was Breixt based so how is that off subject.

    Now id Shut it down again today.

    Orbetter still.let it ride out.

    You want a GE vote for one

    Or labour just keep propping up the Tories

    Brilliant.

    Why are Labour Libs scared of GE
    Losing seats

    Snp would be fine in scotland

    But when you have a Party with 64 seats and 600000 ( ish votes ) yet a a party with over a 1million votes only has around 12 seats we have a problem

    The whole.systems need changing

    The Mps wont vote.for it they know they will be out.

    They could offer a arefuredum ( but that makes no odds as they may not like result so will block it anyway )

    What is the point in voting ?

    #174576

    Andy
    Participant

    I don’t agree with the Court’s decision.
    Can we have another Court case please.
    After we have argued about it for three years of course!

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