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February 20, 2020 at 8:45 pm #181348
DerekJacksonParticipantThere are some factual errors creeping into this thread-
1. The number of unemployed even if they could start work would take a number of years to be trained and longer to get to a standard that can do the job.
2. Unemployment levels are the lowest for many years
3. The number of people heading towards retirement in the care sector means there are 20,000 new carers required in Wales in the next 5 years
4. The assumption that many foreign workers have come in and taken the jibs from British is crazy — lots of the jobs they do no British person would get out of bed to do.February 21, 2020 at 8:17 am #181355
Llayby lillyParticipant[quote quote=181348]There are some factual errors creeping into this thread-
1. The number of unemployed even if they could start work would take a number of years to be trained and longer to get to a standard that can do the job.
2. Unemployment levels are the lowest for many years
3. The number of people heading towards retirement in the care sector means there are 20,000 new carers required in Wales in the next 5 years
4. The assumption that many foreign workers have come in and taken the jibs from British is crazy — lots of the jobs they do no British person would get out of bed to do.[/quote]your 4th point – That’s because under Blair Labour created a welfare dependency like no other country, they were paying vastly more in benefits than the average person could earn in employment. Hence the need to ‘open’ the door to EU nationals. Remember Timmy how Labour estimated people would come in their thousands – when the reality is approx. 4.5 million to 5 million EU nationals have moved to the UK…..hence BREXIT! You Labour supporters and yellow-bellies have brought this on yourselves…! So read it and weep! Im laughting at your angst!
Lilly
February 21, 2020 at 11:58 am #181377
DerekJacksonParticipantIf we did not have so many foreign workers in our Health and Social Care systems they would collapse – don’t come back and say they have taken the jobs of British people look at the numbers and skills and you will see we do not have large numbers of Britsh able to take on these roles.
February 21, 2020 at 1:10 pm #181381
AndyParticipant“Lots of the jobs they do no British person would get out of bed to do.”
Who did these jobs before mass immigration then?
February 21, 2020 at 1:23 pm #181382
zingerParticipant[quote quote=181355]That’s because under Blair Labour created a welfare dependency like no other country, they were paying vastly more in benefits than the average person could earn in employment.[/quote]
I would be interested to know how much money an able bodied couple on benefits get in comparison to a retired couple on pension.
February 21, 2020 at 1:36 pm #181383
zingerParticipant[quote quote=181355]2. Unemployment levels are the lowest for many years[/quote]
Isn’t that a really good thing? Which government is credited with this statement?
February 21, 2020 at 1:51 pm #181385
Llayby lillyParticipant[quote quote=181383]
2. Unemployment levels are the lowest for many years
Isn’t that a really good thing? Which government is credited with this statement?[/quote]
@ Zinger…this statement was made by DJ not me and yes it’s a great thing that unemployment is down and under a Tory government too. Well done Boris et al.
@ Andy, excellent point well made, although the Labour faithful will not want to admit this. Labour sold out the British working people many years ago and they have suffered at the ballot box ever since….LOL…long may this continue. It will be a TORY government that will put the GREAT back into Great Britain.
LillyFebruary 21, 2020 at 6:12 pm #181395
AnonymousInactiveStrange how “Llayby lilly is spouting cliams but not providing any evidence to back them up.
Anyone can claim this, that and the other but without factual information to back up a claim the comments are irrelevant.February 21, 2020 at 6:17 pm #181396
zingerParticipant[quote quote=181395]Strange how “Llayby lilly is spouting cliams but not providing any evidence to back them up.
Anyone can claim this, that and the other but without factual information to back up a claim the comments are irrelevant.[/quote]Just so. Works both ways though. Always good to look at both sides of the question because in politics there is good & bad on all sides.
Having been both employed & self employed makes you look at things differently.
February 21, 2020 at 6:53 pm #181401
TimRegencyParticipantWell, the ONS say that a person need only work one hour a fortnight to be counted as employed.
Then there’s zero hours contracts (which I understand comes to 1.4 million,) fake or very limited self-employment and pay so low that the person still needs to visit food banks. I thought work was supposed to be a ‘route out of poverty’?
I have also read that people in training or similar are also counted, but would need to verify that.
So I’ll be taking claims of a Tory jobs miracle with a spadeful of salt.
Besides, as Derek pointed out, these jobs need to be filled now, we can’t wait for different people to be trained up.
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