NIMBY attitude in Wrexham.

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  • #63147

    Liam
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    With regards to the prison its been stated on several occasions that a specialist contractor would be used to build it so no local jobs there. They already have their own catering contractors, so I struggle to what benefits it would offer to Wrexham other than for prisoners. Not sure they should be done too many favours.

    #63162
    Alunh
    Alunh
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    I have no opinion about the prison issue per se Liam but it is unfair to those who support the building not to factor in the large swathe of jobs that do come to these places over time. One area that is often neglected is the teaching profession because the emphasis on rehabilitation sees a large number of jobs crop up across the curriculum. One of my friends teaches English in one of the prisons but there is need for all sorts of subject advisors and tutors in a modern nick

    #63148

    Liam
    Participant

    Obviously this information won’t come out until the MOJ makes a decision on the super prison site. But I’d just like to see some proper information on what the pros and cons of it would be for the town. It will require proper consultation rather than community leaders dictating that it will be good for Wrexham. I think Ian Lucas has been rightly cautious about welcoming the possibility of it coming to Wrexham until the specifics are known

    I would specifically question this soundbite:
    ‘A prison in Wrexham would create more than 1,000 jobs and supercharge the town’s economy by £17 million a year, said Cllr Rogers in his report.’

    #63149

    Rob
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    @liam 7014 wrote:

    …I would specifically question this soundbite:
    ‘A prison in Wrexham would create more than 1,000 jobs and supercharge the town’s economy by £17 million a year….

    The data is naff New Wrexham ‘Super Prison’ Report Uses Three Year Old Data | Wrexham.com

    “In 2009 the benefit to the local economy was stated as £17,700,000. In the report being presented next week the figure is also stated as £17,700,000 despite the three year gap.

    Our rough maths indicates that if the £17,700,000 figure was adjusted for RPI ( the retail price index, an indicator of inflation) , to get the same benefit it ought to be around £20,800,000 in 2013. Therefore it would be fair to say the benefit to the local economy of the proposals has decreased by around £3,000,000 – if the numbers are still valid.”

    If a £3 million quid difference on a basic figure is not corrected it certainly calls into question the value of the other figures in reports :D

    #63172

    Welsh Dresser
    Participant

    If the projected building costs are also three years old the funds would run out before the place was completed. The council need to recalculate the budgets so they can inform the public of a truer picture.

    #63150

    Nothing wrong in having a prison, but a super prison is just idiotically bad for the long term image of the town.

    But that doesn’t bother cllr leader neil rogers, he’s only in it for political reasons.

    #63151

    Furthermore, when has caring for your community & environment become a crime?

    Usually only when the council staff and councillors don’t get their own way…

    #63177

    Metalhead
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    @thewayneinspain 7020 wrote:

    Furthermore, when has caring for your community & environment become a crime?

    Perhaps if that were to become a crime there would be some justification for building somewhere to house the offenders! :D

    Agree with most of the comments on here, if residents do not believe a development is right for their community then they have every right to voice that opinion. Don’t see why that makes them ”NIMBY’s” (hate that stupid phrase).

    #63170

    NewRisingSun
    Member

    With regards to the prison, won’t most of the jobs be offered to the employees of the other prisons that are being closed, therefore having little benefit to local jobs?

    Also with the Brymbo development I have been involved in fighting, we have been trying to make the point that allowing building on green barrier land here will have consequences for other areas in Wrexham, but I agree that most people are not concerned unless it affects them directly.

    #63160

    zinger
    Participant

    I am.

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