Margaret Thatcher – A Wrexham Visit
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We have this unique video of Thatcher visiting Wrexham ITEC in 1984
https://www.wrexham.com/news/margaret-thatcher-visits-wrexham-1984-video-30811.html
This thread has been started to get your feedback on this video, and for sharing views on Thatcher and her legacy…
I didn’t always agree with her politics but as a woman I admired her. She was the first woman to hold the post of Prime Minister and she had to be tough. She never wavered and proved that women can hold a top office post and still be a wife and mother. Not bad for a grocer’s daughter.
Brilliant Prime Minister. The most difficult task for any Prime Minister is to manage change when the back cloth is difficult. In her case she straddled the era between the old industries declining and the new industries rising. It seems odd that people prefer to roll out this simple nonsense about Thatcher killing off the Coal industry, for example, than to deal with the facts. The facts, of course, relate to the rise of Gas and Electric fires, Central heating, the availability in the EEC of cheap coal, and so on.
Recent surveys have shown that per capita incomes have doubled since the 1970’s in Britain, much of this fact due to the transformation of the country
Alunh;5564 wrote:Recent surveys have shown that per capita incomes have doubled since the 1970’s in Britain, much of this fact due to the transformation of the countryAll very well, have you any info on how pricing inflation has gone during the 1970s especially that of homes.
@Alunh 5564 wrote:
Brilliant Prime Minister. The most difficult task for any Prime Minister is to manage change when the back cloth is difficult. In her case she straddled the era between the old industries declining and the new industries rising. It seems odd that people prefer to roll out this simple nonsense about Thatcher killing off the Coal industry, for example, than to deal with the facts. The facts, of course, relate to the rise of Gas and Electric fires, Central heating, the availability in the EEC of cheap coal, and so on.
Recent surveys have shown that per capita incomes have doubled since the 1970’s in Britain, much of this fact due to the transformation of the country
social democrats in Sweden 1970 GNI $36 Billion
still social democrats in Sweden 1989 GNI $203 Billion
and again still social democrats in Sweden 2011 GNI $549 Billionabidwd;5577 wrote:social democrats in Sweden 1970 GNI $36 Billion
still social democrats in Sweden 1989 GNI $203 Billion
and again still social democrats in Sweden 2011 GNI $549 Billionthey did have abba, roxette and ace of base!
just checked this is money…
they say inflation since 1979 is 385% or in other words, prices are almost 5 times as much.
Historic inflation calculator: how the value of money has changed since 1900 | This is Money
@thewayneinspain 5578 wrote:
they did have abba, roxette and ace of base!
just checked this is money…
they say inflation since 1979 is 385% or in other words, prices are almost 5 times as much.
Historic inflation calculator: how the value of money has changed since 1900 | This is Money
1979 – 1990 inflation increase is %130.95
Even after all this time Margaret Thatcher invokes some strong reaction. Some of the comments I have read about her death in the media and social networks have been really nasty. Male politicians make decisions just as bad as any of Thatchers but they don’t seem to attract the same level of hatred. Is it because she was a strong willed woman? Any party leader needs to be strong but in Thatchers case it seems she was viewed as cold and heartless because of her strength.
Her children have lost their mother and that hurts no matter what age the children are.
@Welsh Dresser 5585 wrote:
Even after all this time Margaret Thatcher invokes some strong reaction. Some of the comments I have read about her death in the media and social networks have been really nasty. Male politicians make decisions just as bad as any of Thatchers but they don’t seem to attract the same level of hatred. Is it because she was a strong willed woman? Any party leader needs to be strong but in Thatchers case it seems she was viewed as cold and heartless because of her strength.
Her children have lost their mother and that hurts no matter what age the children are.
Could you please justify this point, and if you don’t mind give an example.
“Male politicians make decisions just as bad as any of Thatchers but they don’t seem to attract the same level of hatred.”
abidwd;5586 wrote:Could you please justify this point, and if you don’t mind give an example.“Male politicians make decisions just as bad as any of Thatchers but they don’t seem to attract the same level of hatred.”
I sort of understand the view about sexism towards politicians, the universal description of hate towards her today has been ‘witch’ which is gender specific and the more positive name has been “Iron lady”.
Whereas when blair goes it will be not be influenced as much by gender e.g. either bliar or b’stard
Cameron’s nickname is even more interesting, as although the insults can be labelled to either male or female, the words themselves refer to female genitalia. Tory t**t or c**t.
But interestingly neither May, Harman nor Cooper the top females in national politics get worse names than the current crop of male politicians.
On the whole, I do think there is sexism in politics whether it be at local level (the lack of women in the local council is very worrying) or national level. The labour party for me does actually seem worse at the moment, e.g. Cooper and her husband Ed Balls. Cooper is by the far the better and more able politician, however, the alpha male, balls has taken the higher placed job and profile.
caveat: However in general, I think right wing politicians get worse names than left wing politicians and thatcher being female got it even worse.
2nd caveat: Thatcher of course used her gender to set herself from the others in her party, so in some part she is to blame.
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