Lucas the Gonner – Gone !

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  • #175424

    Andy
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    “how close is the current Brexit deal to what people voted on ”

    The 2016 referendum gave 2 choices leave or remain. It didn’t mention deal.

    #175428

    MargaretA
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    “how close is the current Brexit deal to what people voted on ”

    The 2016 referendum gave 2 choices leave or remain. It didn’t mention deal.

    And the reasons Leavers give for voting leave are many and various. They won’t all be happy! So it is with a divorce or separation: both sides can’t have the TV! Negotiation has to take place, if we wish to continue exporting and eating.
    If Mr Lucas had voted to accept the earlier deals, he still wouldn’t have pleased everyone.

    #175429

    Andy
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    We have had three years of negotiation and it’s produced what?
    We shall continue to export and eat come what may. Why would we not be able to eat? You don’t seriously believe the bullshit about food imports?

    #175432

    MargaretA
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    We have had three years of negotiation and it’s produced what?
    We shall continue to export and eat come what may. Why would we not be able to eat? You don’t seriously believe the bullshit about food imports?

    Do you think everything is going to continue as usual? Without delays? Without tariffs? Don’t we still need to put trade deals in place? If not, what has everyone been discussing?

    #175436

    TimRegency
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    This is surreal. I thought you wanted to leave, not carry on as normal, which is exactly what the ‘remain ‘ option is.

    #175448

    Ioan y Ffin
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    Ian Lucas has done a good job as our MP. For the first eight years it was easier as Labour was in power at Westminster. Since 2008 with the financial crisis and the 2010 election when he became an opposition MP his power to achieve the ‘miracles’ some people expect from their MPs was limited. Hopefully Labour will hold a proper competition to choose a successor rather than showing insone union backed mediocrity. This seat is no longer a safe one for Labour so they need strong candidate.

    #175460

    DerekJackson
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    At a local level when Labour lost the power base in Westminster that created a political disjoint away from what used to be Labour at Westminster, Welsh Government and Wrexham Council. The disjoint does not do any political party any good as blocks and personality politics kicks in at each level.
    If there is not a unified approach the blame game starts with each part blaming the other for failures.
    Whoever is selected and whatever the result in an Election the successful candidate from any party will be faced with the political disconnect.

    #175615

    locallad
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    What has he done for Wrexham, absolutely nothing.Organised a singing competition.He is going before he is pushed.The only thing he has done is fought for the courts & that’s about it.

    #175621

    IMHO
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    What has he done for Wrexham, absolutely nothing.Organised a singing competition.He is going before he is pushed.The only thing he has done is fought for the courts & that’s about it.

    Whatever his merits-demerits are this is likely to be the reason he’s going as he knows the writing is on the wall and, he doesn’t want to face defeat. Imo of course.

    #175636

    Well, Lucas (the Gone) has one last chance to demonstrate that he is a true Public Servant and will represent his constituents and vote FOR the new Brexit deal.

    For those who have championed his “public service” – if a four day week, a nice journey on the train (probably first class with breakfast) to London for a few weeks with similar holidays to teachers, a £78,000 salary and expenses over £100,000 and having to pay no heed to the wishes of the electorate – most people would accept this “public service”.

    A true public servant is the man who is up the electricity pole in a winter blizzard restoring power supplies, the gas worker mending a leak in a water filled trench in the middle of the night, the nurse who stays at work when other can’t get in -these are true ‘public servants’ – paid just a fraction of the MP’s salary.

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