Is Ian Lucas et al going to give the money back?

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  • #168743

    Llayby lilly
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    Very interesting story can be found here about our local politicians scooping huge profits from selling tax payer funded homes….Come on Ian and the others, tell us what’s been going on….

    https://www.olddailypostlink.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/north-wales-mps-made-hundreds-16214517

    Lilly

    #168744

    Llayby lilly
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    ….

    What they claimed and what the profits were

    David Hanson – Delyn MP: 1992-present
    •Bought property July 1998 for £85,000, sold in February 2007 for £239,950 – profit £154,950
    •Bought property February 2007 for £490,000, sold in November 2011 for £570,000 – profit £80,000 – total profit from second home sales £234,950
    •Claimed at least £69,000 in mortgage interest payments
    •Also claimed more than £7,000 in legal fees, stamp duty and land registry fees

    Mark Tami – Alyn and Deeside MP: 2001-present
    •Bought property December 2002 for £192,500, sold in June 2007 for £244,000 – profit £52,500
    •Claimed at least £10,500 in mortgage interest payments
    •Claimed additional £3,500 for bathroom refurbishment, £960 for external painting and £9,000 as a “stamp duty contribution” on selling property
    •Ordered to pay back £996.70 for overpaid council tax and water rates as part of Legg Inquiry

    Elfyn Llwyd – Meirionnydd Nant Conwy MP: 1992-2010, then Dwyfor Meirionnydd MP: 2010-2015
    •Says he bought London property “well before” 2006 (cost unknown), sold in 2011 for £272,000
    •Claimed at least £24,084 in mortgage interest payments back to 2004
    •Paid “in excess of” £50,000 in capital gains tax
    •Ordered to pay back £927.66 as part of the Legg Inquiry for duplicate expense claims

    Ian Lucas – Wrexham MP: 2001-present
    •Bought property February 2003 for £205,000, sold in March 2007 for £250,000 – profit £45,000
    •Claimed more than £28,000 in mortgage interest payments
    •Claimed additional £6,245 in solicitor’s, mortgage and estate agent fees

    You couldn’t make it up…

    #168745

    Matt
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    I fully support any scrutiny into public officials usage of taxpayer money for personal gain or abuse of expenses etc..

    However, you look at Lucas he’s pretty low down on the scale when you compare it to the likes of Michael Gove who could well be the next PM. Gove has made profits of £870,000 on housing sales and also Sir Graham Brady chair of the 1922 committee who made a £1.1m profit.

    https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/revealed-politicians-who-profited-42million-14272507

    There are no doubt countless others from all the major parties who have made grotesque profits from benefiting in ways the Average Joe could not because we cannot claim expenses.

    One issue I take with the article though is that you have to question whether or not it’s an incredibly slow news day at the Daily Post for them to have only just published this today when they had the information from the original article on the 9th April. If it was that outrageous 7 weeks ago of what these North Wales MPs were up to, why did it take 7 weeks to get published?

    Reach PLC (Formerly Trinity Mirror Group) are really reaching here.

    Oh and the answer to your original question on whether or not Ian Lucas et all will give the money back? Well, never in a million years will Gove and chums be ever asked or offer to pay their money back so that will mean neither will any other politicians lower down the scale.

    P.s. if Gove becomes PM – even though he says he is dedicated to delivering Brexit – he plans to offer FREE British Citizenship to the 3 million EU nationals who were living in the UK at the time of the Brexit vote. This would mean he’s effectively creating up to 3 million new Remain Voters (highly motivated ones) if there was to be a People’s Vote further down the line. This would almost certainly tip the scales in favour of remaining in the EU.

    https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/may/27/michael-gove-to-pledge-free-citizenship-for-3m-eu-nationals

    You have to love British politics and how politicians will find new and exciting ways to anger sections of the British public.

    #168747

    wrexview
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    Bet they all wished they had hung on as prices in London have soared in the last twelve years !

    #168760

    TimRegency
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    How does Jeremy Corbyn’s record re expenses compare to these?

    The reason I ask is because some of these MPs look down their noses at Corbyn and his supporters, when perhaps they should be paying closer attention to their own back yard.

    #168762

    billycoen
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    I wouldn’t play Monopoly with any of this lot.

    #168771

    zinger
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    #168778

    TimRegency
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    Would you like a scalpel for that barrel?

    #168925

    wrexview
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    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7091385/Bercow-spends-13-000-three-day-Canada-trip-113-month-Sky.html

    Why are we paying for Speaker Bercow to have Sky TV, no austerity for them !

    #168935

    TimRegency
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    Is it because we’re all supposed to nod along with what Prime Minister Murdoch wants?

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