‘Grammar vigilante’ or 'Graffiti Vandal'

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    maxman
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    You will have the welsh taliban after you with sensible comments like that.

    #154063

    EosPengwern
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    @carolthomas – yes, that’s a pretty good translation, perhaps not exactly what I’d have written if I were writing in English myself but it captures the sense nicely.

    Generally speaking I find that Google Translate does a reasonable job in either direction (Welsh -> English or English -> Welsh); it’s not perfect, but machine translation won’t be perfect in any language for a while yet, and it’s certainly good enough to be helpful.

    In signage, I have a feeling that most errors are due to sloppy signwriters rather than poor translators, though I sometimes see errors in Welsh on signposts which look like the results of someone misreading someone else’s handwriting: “cl” mistaken for “d” and that sort of thing.

    #154064

    EosPengwern
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    @jimbow – Welsh has been the majority language in Wrexham for most of recorded history; using that as an argument for adopting English-only signage at a time when English has the upper hand sounds a bit like trying to change the rules of the game halfway through.

    Wrexham is a Welsh town, and if a single language were to be adopted then it should be Welsh.

    #154067

    Andy
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    Wrexham in the National news again. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-45059032

    #154070

    Maureen Gray
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    Good debate, but seriously now, will the knob-head who committed the crime get prosecuted?

    #154071

    jimbow
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    EosPengwern— As you say Welsh has been the majority language, but as you say it no longer is.
    In these times of austerity you have to spend wisely. It is not a question of changing the rules halfway through. Maybe when under Plaid Cymru times improve, you can have everybody speaking Welsh and you will be happy.

    #154073

    Andy
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    “will the knob-head who committed the crime get prosecuted? ”

    No Maureen. He/she will receive retraining and told to use a better online translator in future.

    #154080
    AMA Express
    AMA Express
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    Oh good. Lessons will be learnt then.

    #154128

    shiftingspace
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    Let’s cater for the majority not the minority. Money is tight use it wisely.

    Well said.

    Why not take this opportunity to produce signage for the growing number of Urdu and Punjabi speakers in the region? With the British set to be a minority in their own country by 2060 according to most demographic projections, it’ll have to be done sooner or later.

    Let’s take the lead now and demonstrate that Wrexham is a progressive and inclusive multicultural town.

    #154140
    AMA Express
    AMA Express
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    Don’t forget to include the Turks who run tea shops, kebab joints, chippies, minimarkets etc in the region.

    Oh, just a minute though ! Most of them have already made the effort to learn to read, write and speak English !

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