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    Sheefag
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    An interesting article from 2013 about ‘Stop The War’and the kind of people that run it.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/syria/10293677/Ed-Milibands-friends-of-Assad.html

    #103952
    Mrs Crewe
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    I’m quoting from The Gaurdian and The Independant the two top left wing supporting broadsheets in Britain (it has a capital because it is a proper noun). And tell me this, if Stop the War really is an anti war group, and not a collection of disaffected Antisemitic, homophobic terror supporting Stalinists why didn’t it come out publically when Russia invaded the sovereign nation of the Ukraine and condemn this act of violence? Why hasn’t it protested outside the Russian embassy, they are currently bombing both the terror group Isis and the opponents of Assad. They haven’t because the leadership of Stop the War are worshipping old fashion communists who think that Stalin (who murdered more than Hitler) had the right idea.

    Why have they never condemned the 1000s of terror acts perpetrated by Hamas and Hezbollah? Because their leaders are a group of extremists who support and desire the obliteration of democracy, freedom of speech and equality. You call me hate filled yet I am not the person supporting a group who refuse to condemn the murder of men because they are gay, who refuse to condemn the murder of women because they are no longer sexually useful, and who blame the victims of terror for the actions of the terrorists, you on the other hand patently do support both Stop the War and the vileness for which they stand. As I said before anyone who thinks that it’s ok to throw men off towers because they are gay, is worthless and their opinion of even less worth.

    http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/aug/13/jeremy-corbyn-labour-leadership-foreign-policy-antisemitism

    http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/comment/the-stop-the-war-coalition-should-do-us-all-a-favour-and-disband-9702292.html

    #103955
    Daave63
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    Hi cmaj76,

    I am not suggesting a war, but that we as a country, UN member or part of a civilised human race need to take / join in with a collective action to selectivly erradicate these brave IS commandos!. Brave IS ? Well yes, they cleverly and bravely stood their ground on the battle field and fought toe-to-toe, only stopping when falling down in the battle.
    Oh no sorry they walked into a concert hall out of the blue, full of locals enjoying a band and cowardly shot anyone who was unfortunate to be there that night, they then blew them selves up in the stupid belief that they would be come martyrs! Sorry, my mistake.

    #103956
    cmaj76
    cmaj76
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    I take your point Dave, my point is that we’ve tried bombing countries before and let’s be fair we now have 3 of the most unstable countries in the world. I’m not against military action if it is part of an international collective long term plan to bring long term stability but I see no evidence of any long term plan.

    Mrs C, I’ve looked at your links and they are disgusting and I totally disagree with what is being commente, however they clearly aren’t indicative of every person who is anti war. I do not agree with your sweeping generalisations that everybody who is anti war is any of the things you say. It reads as a personal attack on anybody who does not want war.

    #103958

    Rex Ham
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    I don’t know anything about the “Stop the war” organisation and I would go to great length to avoid any such confrontation. However, when an organisation such as ISIS go to such great lengths to kill people who are not part of their ideology then the rest world has to say enough is enough. Who will send a message to ISIS to tell them to respect human life? Who will tell them to stop the war against innocent people in and away from Syria? And will ISIS listen? No of course not because they are a terror organisation with only their own ideology. Now as to who tells ISIS “enough is enough” should it be the Americans? Regarded my many as the “world police”? No, it should be a united effort and regrettably the UK must be part of that action.

    #103959

    zinger
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    I don’t want war, for goodness sake, what right thinking person does? But when people are brainwashed to the state that they don’t care about their own lives much less others, what else can be done? Talking won’t achieve anything. What had those young people done to deserve being shot? Why choose that venue? Football match – to cause the most injuries, deaths & confusion. Coffee shops as distraction. Someone, somewhere has to do something. I would hate to be in the position of having to decide what should be done.

    #103960

    wrexview
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    If the Labour Party go for a free vote in the House of Commons I wonder which way our local MP , Mr.Lucas will vote ?

    #103967

    rockyrobins
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    I’m quoting from The Gaurdian and The Independant the two top left wing supporting broadsheets in Britain (it has a capital because it is a proper noun). And tell me this, if Stop the War really is an anti war group, and not a collection of disaffected Antisemitic, homophobic terror supporting Stalinists why didn’t it come out publically when Russia invaded the sovereign nation of the Ukraine and condemn this act of violence? Why hasn’t it protested outside the Russian embassy, they are currently bombing both the terror group Isis and the opponents of Assad. They haven’t because the leadership of Stop the War are worshipping old fashion communists who think that Stalin (who murdered more than Hitler) had the right idea.

    Why have they never condemned the 1000s of terror acts perpetrated by Hamas and Hezbollah? Because their leaders are a group of extremists who support and desire the obliteration of democracy, freedom of speech and equality. You call me hate filled yet I am not the person supporting a group who refuse to condemn the murder of men because they are gay, who refuse to condemn the murder of women because they are no longer sexually useful, and who blame the victims of terror for the actions of the terrorists, you on the other hand patently do support both Stop the War and the vileness for which they stand. As I said before anyone who thinks that it’s ok to throw men off towers because they are gay, is worthless and their opinion of even less worth.

    http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/aug/13/jeremy-corbyn-labour-leadership-foreign-policy-antisemitism

    http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/comment/the-stop-the-war-coalition-should-do-us-all-a-favour-and-disband-9702292.html

    Deary me what a one-eyed view of the world you have. The independant is that left wing that they backed the conservative led coalition in the last general election.

    #103982
    Sheefag
    Sheefag
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    It doesn’t make it any less true though, Rocky old son.

    #103996

    Ferret
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    Actually it’s Independent. With three “e”s.

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