Dog Poo and Litter!

Home Forums Wrexham.com Forums Wrexham Forum Dog Poo and Litter!

  • Author
    Posts
  • #116937

    Andy
    Participant

    Using the tactic of not giving personal information may probably be de rigueur in somewhere like Leeds, Liverpool, Manchester or Camden etc.

    It is illegal to not give your details when required to do so. You can be arrested, detained and convicted in court .

    http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2005/16/contents

    #116962

    wrexhammum
    Participant

    I think this is a very positive thing, litter and dog poo is terrible, it disgusts me when I see it around the town

    Well said Mrs Woody.

    #116981

    JoanTheHog
    Participant

    Using the tactic of not giving personal information may probably be de rigueur in somewhere like Leeds, Liverpool, Manchester or Camden etc.

    It is illegal to not give your details when required to do so. You can be arrested, detained and convicted in court .

    http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2005/16/contents

    What does illegal mean Andy? What is a legal frame work – that phrase is heard over & over, surely anything man made is inferior to man, anything nature or god if you like makes is superior to man? your thoughts!

    as have said in many posts prove applicable obligation of ALL statutes/acts to people (Human Beings). Those that want to dismiss my postings as utter shite or crap (same thing really) then go ahead PROVE me wrong, don’t just say that is complete crap Joan, until proof is given all have posted will stand as truth.

    #117931

    Katia
    Participant

    Thank you Wrexham.com for reporting the July FPN totals.

    …And Then There Were Three.
    So 568 fines for cigarete litter compared to 3 fines for dog fouling.
    Councils in other areas (Blaenau Gwent) reportedly responded to criticism of an emphasis on cigarette related litter by agreeing separately for additional Dog Control Enforcement Officers paid at around £20 per hour to tackle dog related issues including dog fouling.

    Should Wrexham Council now consider this to persuade skeptics that dog fouling is being taken just as seriously as tackling improperly disposed cigarettes ?

    “Over £46,000 in fines were issued to smokers, litterers and dog owners across the county borough last month – an increase on the number issued in the previous month.
    Monthly figures released by Wrexham Council show that a total of 619 Fixed Penalty Notices (FPNs) were issued by Kingdom Security officers across the county borough throughout July. This was an increase of 61 additional FPNs compared to June.
    The £75 fines were issued to those found dropping cigarette butts, littering and not picking up after their pets. The fines come as part of Wrexham Council’s ongoing partnership with Kingdom Security, who were brought in by the local authority earlier this year to help tackle the above issues.
    In total £46,425 in FPNs were issued – an increase on the £39,975 issued throughout June.
    The vast majority of July’s FPNs were again issued for ‘improperly disposed cigarettes’, with 568 smokers issued with £75 fines. This is up on the 490 FPNs issued in June.
    A further 18 fines were issued for dropping food, 28 for litter, two for breaking dog exclusion orders and three for people failing to pick up after their dogs.
    Ashley Houston-Birch, Team Leader in Wrexham with Kingdom Security, said: “We have increased our patrols around Country Parks and identified dog-fouling hotspots, but have admittedly struggled to issue many fixed penalty notices for dog fouling this last month.
    “In a bid to tackle dog fouling, we have carried out more patrols outside of usual working hours, with patrols starting at 6am and some enforcement officers patrolling until 9pm.
    “We will also continue to increase patrols and follow-up reports to combat the problem.”

    Wrexham Sees 16% Increase In Fixed Penalty Fines In July

    #117933
    Rob
    Rob
    Keymaster

    I had hoped to have further details on the arrangement, however the opportunity has been missed this year as accounts stuff for the Council has been brought forward.

    A statutory notice was placed in the usual deeply accessible places unread by many to note this change of date, including those who write the publications it appeared in, unless they have no interest themselves :)

    Unfortunately unlike last year the notice, or change, was not highlighted on the Council’s social media accounts.

    (Wrexham.com'er - email us on news@wrexham.com)

    #117935
    Daave63
    Daave63
    Participant

    wrexham.com/news/wrexham-council-prosecutes-45-litterers-for-failing-to-obey-environmental-laws-117925.html

    I managed to find this little gem hidden away on your front news page today! If only the Hogster was representing them, she could bring the council to their knees!!

    #117937

    Katia
    Participant

    For anybody that believes they can shout Boo! then run away.
    Looks not to be the case Joan The Hog. :)
    Question has to be asked is there a contribution to the administrative cost of issuing the fines from the enforcement company or is the cost borne fully by WMBC ?
    There has yet to be any comment regarding the commercial basis of operation ie is the method that Wrexham Council pays between £42 to £55 (-ish) for each successfully issued ticket then looks to seek payment from succesfully paid fines ? If so, with a supposedly reported success ratio of around 60% of collecting fines, and with an council officer’s time being taken into account – will the system prove to be cost neutral – let alone result in any profit for the council ?

    How keen on returning to Wrexham for shopping will anybody fined feel – not very – so every month the number of alienated potential Wrexham shoppers grows by around 500 – allowing for those stupid enough to be caught more than once.

    Is it all worth it ?

    Wrexham Council Prosecutes 45 Litterers For ‘Failing to Obey Environmental Laws’

    #117975

    Chris Jones
    Participant

    Always pick up our dog’s poo. I know someone who got fined for dropping a ciggie end (£70). the interesting thing here is that they could read the car number plate this time to identify the culprit but when the same person had her car damaged they couldn’t identify any of the other cars details!
    Interesting enough when it comes to litter – what is the rubbish that the refuse collectors leave all over the streets in Bangor when they empty the wheelie bins? is this not litter and shouldn’t they be fined if they don’t pick it up?

    #118073

    JoanTheHog
    Participant

    For anybody that believes they can shout Boo! then run away.
    Looks not to be the case Joan The Hog. :)
    Question has to be asked is there a contribution to the administrative cost of issuing the fines from the enforcement company or is the cost borne fully by WMBC ?
    There has yet to be any comment regarding the commercial basis of operation ie is the method that Wrexham Council pays between £42 to £55 (-ish) for each successfully issued ticket then looks to seek payment from succesfully paid fines ? If so, with a supposedly reported success ratio of around 60% of collecting fines, and with an council officer’s time being taken into account – will the system prove to be cost neutral – let alone result in any profit for the council ?

    How keen on returning to Wrexham for shopping will anybody fined feel – not very – so every month the number of alienated potential Wrexham shoppers grows by around 500 – allowing for those stupid enough to be caught more than once.

    Is it all worth it ?

    Wrexham Council Prosecutes 45 Litterers For ‘Failing to Obey Environmental Laws’

    <iframe class=”wp-embedded-content” sandbox=”allow-scripts” security=”restricted” src=”http://www.wrexham.com/news/wrexham-council-prosecutes-45-litterers-for-failing-to-obey-environmental-laws-117925.html/embed#?secret=k1xSYvRAP1&#8243; data-secret=”k1xSYvRAP1″ title=”“Wrexham Council Prosecutes 45 Litterers For ‘Failing to Obey Environmental Laws’” — Wrexham.com” marginwidth=”0″ marginheight=”0″ scrolling=”no” width=”600″ frameborder=”0″ height=”535″></iframe>

    mmm interesting post but I will try to answer some of your points, overall what you have posted backs up what have said about fines all along, its all about scamming us out of money & nothing else.

    “For anybody that believes they can shout Boo! then run away.
    Looks not to be the case Joan The Hog. :)”

    well, if you look at the 1st posting in THIS thread on page 4 by a member called “NEN” – “The little Hitler ran up to me and tried to issue a Fine. I tried politely to explain that it was an accident however he didn’t seem to understand this (I guess they are not the sharpest tools in the box) so I used a different approach and assertively shouted “NO!” in his face and walked off briskly. He seemed to understand this better as after a few metres he gave up and moved onto someone else. This is the only language these people understand” – says it all NO NAMES, NO DETAILS = £0 fine beat that – if you can?

    #119471

    Katia
    Participant

    Thank you Wrexham.com for reporting the August FPN total figure.

    Previously we were given a breakdown of the figures for improperly disposed cigarettes , dropping food, litter, breaking dog exclusion orders, people failing to pick up after their dogs, however for August only the total number of FPNs are stated. Everything is lumped together.
    ” The total of 538 Fixed Penalty Notices (FPNs) issued by Kingdom Enforcement Offices to those found littering and irresponsible dog owners in August. This figure is down on the 619 FPNs issued throughout July. ”

    Having admitted they struggled to issue many fixed penalty notices for dog fouling during July ( …just 3), and given ‘Identified dog fouling hotspots’ have been targeted as part of an ongoing clampdown on irresponsible dog owners and litterers across the county borough. “, we may reasonably expect they have good news to share on the number of dog fouling FPNs during August ?

    It is good to know dog fouling is being taken seriously and that those expressing the cynical view that the whole exercise is about targeting fag throwers outside town centre pubs, cafes, bookies and shops are being proved wrong.

    So can we all celebrate the successful targeting of dog fouling offenders by letting us know the figures please ?

    Enforcement Officers Increase Patrols at ‘Identified Dog Fouling Hotspots’

Content is user generated and is not moderated before posting. All content is viewed and used by you at your own risk and Wrexham.com does not warrant the accuracy or reliability of any of the information displayed. The views expressed on these Forums and social media are those of the individual contributors.
Complaint? Please use the report post tools or contact Wrexham.com .

You must be logged in to reply to this topic.

More...

Councils should be “named and shamed” if they refuse to agree to a child protection procedure, says North Wales police and crime chair

News

Council Planning Officers reject £50m huge ‘low carbon fresh produce’ greenhouses plan

News

A view from Wrexham’s Member of the Senedd

News

Army of wellbeing champions created to support North Wales firms through Covid-19 crisis

News

Interior fit-out underway as work continues converting former Burtons into church and community hub

News

Local grassroots charity celebrating its 25th anniversary

News