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July 25, 2016 at 8:13 pm #116712
JoanTheHogParticipantFrom my understanding because all are presented with a “new way of thinking”, it’s alien, so as all are not used to it all will carry on as before until something happens and they will remember, what was it JoanTheHog said? Mmm.
Until you get used to this “new way of thinking” I know I originally thought it was all hog wash & then something happened – won’t say what but did more research and found things really do WORK!
July 25, 2016 at 8:17 pm #116713
JoanTheHogParticipantWhen those council paid thugs (debt collection agents – they are NOT high court bailiffs & have NO power to enter your home) come round looking for monies remember this.
July 25, 2016 at 8:23 pm #116715
AndyParticipantI have researched this rubbish. IT DOES NOT WORK!!
The Government and Police dont have to prove they have authority to enforce laws. They are given that power by the electorate. The very idea is laughable.
When these FMOTL nut jobs end up in Court, they then say the CPS and magistrates are acting illegally. I bet when they are in Prison they think the Prison service is acting illegally.July 25, 2016 at 8:35 pm #116718
AndyParticipantAnd stop with the ridiculous Youtube links. That driver was not released without charge. You do realise that you can edit video and audio.
July 25, 2016 at 8:42 pm #116719
JoanTheHogParticipant[quote quote=116715]I have researched this rubbish. IT DOES NOT WORK!!
The Government and Police dont have to prove they have authority to enforce laws. They are given that power by the electorate. The very idea is laughable.
When these FMOTL nut jobs end up in Court, they then say the CPS and magistrates are acting illegally. I bet when they are in Prison they think the Prison service is acting illegally.[/quote]OK everyone is entitled to thier own opinions but for some YES it does work! There are ways to make things go away. I am NOT FMOTL myself but looking into certain aspects as have described so far can see at least for me obvious things, so will carry on that way.
Yes when on electoral role you are essentially acquiescing to agreeing to them having certain inferred “rights” over you I suppose. But what if you are not on the electoral register? Then what?
Anyway do you have something substancial to properly counter my arquments put forward so far? Don’t give more examples of saying this is hog wash or the very idea is laughable. Come up with something “concrete” – if you can! me thinks not – mmmmmm
July 25, 2016 at 8:46 pm #116720
JoanTheHogParticipantAndy judging by your comments you have NOTHING substantial to say do you?
July 25, 2016 at 8:48 pm #116721
JoanTheHogParticipant[quote quote=116718]And stop with the ridiculous Youtube links. That driver was not released without charge. You do realise that you can edit video and audio.
[/quote]YES he was released without charge – watch the follow up or are you accusing the makers/particpants that this is made up folly?
No the links are NOT ridiculous.
July 25, 2016 at 8:51 pm #116722
JoanTheHogParticipant[quote quote=116715]I have researched this rubbish. IT DOES NOT WORK!!
The Government and Police dont have to prove they have authority to enforce laws. They are given that power by the electorate. The very idea is laughable.
When these FMOTL nut jobs end up in Court, they then say the CPS and magistrates are acting illegally. I bet when they are in Prison they think the Prison service is acting illegally.[/quote]Anyone can put on a uniform with a shiny badge & claim to be in authority. Doesn’t make it so does it? How can anyone have authority over anyone else? unless you want to not deal with your own affairs.
July 25, 2016 at 8:58 pm #116723
JoanTheHogParticipantAndy am not trying to be clever or put 1 over, just want to simply open a proper discussion on a subject I feel quite strongly about. If you want/have something to contribute then by all means do so. To reiterate – am not trying to put 1 over just duscuss.
July 25, 2016 at 9:03 pm #116724
AndyParticipantJoan, I dont know what you think is substantial. Judging by your comments you have nothing coherent to say. The proof is in the pudding. Many people end up in Prison by following this crap. A quick Google finds many results. I suppose the Police and Courts acted illegally did they?
http://www.grimsbytelegraph.co.uk/freeman-refused-pay-council/story-14114588-detail/story.html
http://www.westerntelegraph.co.uk/news/9918044.Jail_for_man_who_refused__to_be_governed_/
http://www.wirralglobe.co.uk/news/9795535.Wirral_man_jailed_for_refusing_to_pay_council_tax/
http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/midlands-news/freeman-land-driver-jailed-contempt-10253089
“when on electoral role you are essentially acquiescing to agreeing to them having certain inferred “rights” over you I suppose.”
Where do you get this from?
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