De-Listing The Groves

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    Owain Glyndwr
    Owain Glyndwr
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    To be born Welsh is to be born privileged, not with a silver spoon in your mouth, but with music in your blood, and poetry in your soul.

    #123346

    iout
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    Seems so ironic that so many that lament about the old Wrexham, and condemn the council for having knocked the living daylights out of the town, are so keen to knock down The Groves. I do not recall such a campaign to save a local structure in the mid to recent past. The town is full of newish structures that are in poor condition. Regardless of wether they are council owned or in the private sector. Lets keep what little we have left of any significance.

    #123347

    zinger
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    I agree. Buildings these days are only intended to last, on average 30 years. Look at the police station. What a waste of money.

    #123529

    wrexview
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    Well that’s a real surprise it has been Re-listed. How has that happened and can we be sure there will not be another change of mind ?

    #123553
    AMA Express
    AMA Express
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    It would make an ideal Police Station.

    #123568

    JaneJ
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    Open comment to the Save the Groves Group — please can you let all of us know what your intention is for the building as the only use that seems to be on the table for the site is the Council building a primary school– where are your ideas

    #123580

    iout
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    The site is the subject of a Covenant, This dictates that the Site (Not The present Building Alone) MUST be utilised for Educational purposes. So yes it would make a police station, an art gallery, and I am sure many other uses however IT MUSR BE A SCHOOL, COLLEGE, OR UNI.

    #123587

    Rex Ham
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    Why the need for a big debate?
    The site has been listed by WAG.
    The site has a covenant, which says it can only be used for educational purposes
    The area needs a new school.

    As has been said, an imaginative architect will come up with plans to meet all the criteria. An imaginative lawyer will also come up with a definition to suit an interpretation of the covenant. So some kind of museum or arts establishment could be deemed “educational”.

    Instead of fighting the “listing” why don’t WCBC go back to the WAG to ask for funding to develop a new school on the site, on the basis they have to use the existing building at the say so of WAG.
    Every body wins!

    #123597
    Councillor X
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    The Council should have asked PWC for advice ….

    A hero is someone who understands the responsibility that comes with his freedom.

    #123626

    wrexview
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    Councillor Pritchard is very disappointed with the relisting of the Groves and appears determined to continue to challenge the decision. There is no mention in his statement of looking for funding to turn the present buildings into a 21st Century school. Detailed drawings showing some possibilities already exist via Coleg Cambria. Have the Council examined closely all available funding options ? Seeing that the Welsh Assembly agreed the listing maybe they should start there in their quest for finance. Funding will be paramount if the building is retained or demolished.

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