Cutting subsided bus services to rural areas

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  • #54388

    Ponciau
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    Consultation is under way to cut buses to rural areas after 6pm weekdays and all day on ;):eek::cool:Sundays this will make the likes of Ponciau,Rhos and penycae as accessible as the outer Hebrides :cool:

    #65955

    Arfon Jones
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    Likewise for Gwersyllt and Summerhill and because WCBC cut subsidies so will TAITH the Regional Transport Forum so whatever cut WCBC will be made worse. A thoroughly badly thought out proposal. A 0.5% increase in council tax will more than cover the cost of subsidising these bus services, a small price to pay for a service that brings such economic benefit to the town centre.

    #65950

    Rob
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    What is the figure that needs bridging?

    Taith of course funding the £500k+ for the now infamous signage…

    http://www.taith.gov.uk/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/Taith_16_Wrexham-Transport-Accessibility-Strategy.doc

    #65952

    wrexview
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    I notice there is £132,000 allocated next year by Taith for something called ” the Grove Road bus gate”. Can anyone shed some light on what that actually means?

    #65956

    Born Acorn
    Participant

    According to that document:

    ” [FONT=&quot]The scheme will provide bus priority along the Chester Road corridor, the third busiest bus corridor with 9 buses per hour including the Chester-Wrexham route no 1 (12 minute frequency service). Inbound buses will be able to avoid queuing at the Chester Road/Inner Ring Road and Inner Ring Road/Rhosddu Roundabout junctions by rerouting via the lightly trafficked Grove Road. [/FONT]

    [FONT=&quot]A bus only connection will be made westbound with the Inner Ring Road managed by a bus gate. This will enable priority to be afforded to the Chester Road bus services. The scheme will not only reduce queuing times but also distance, shortening the route by 130m. “[/FONT]

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    [/FONT]According to a Google search, a bus gate itself seems to be an automatic bollard.

    #65951

    Rob
    Participant

    So it sounds like the bus will go Chester Rd > Grove Rd > Rhosddu Rd > King St.

    I wonder if the ‘bus gate’ is to enable the bus to cross traffic to enter the right flow for Rhosddu Rd?

    As above, sounds like this type of thing:
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    #65953

    wrexview
    Participant

    How much time do they think will be saved , if any, by this £132,000 expenditure?

    #65975

    Cazzablanca
    Participant

    Welcome to Holt – where buses to Wrexham don’t now get you into town before 9:05 on a weekday, run one an hour, and the last bus home is 4:55pm from King Street. Obviously not caring about people who work full time and use public transport to commute. Somehow however those who travel into Chester to & from work have buses at suitable times both ways from the very same service. Very unfair, and in a time when we are supposed to be cutting emissions surely a ‘rush-hour’ timed service to and from Wrexham town centre on a weekday is essential. Someone out there obviously thinks differently. Oh, and on a Saturday the buses run every TWO hours. Useless. To top it off we have no service at all on a Sunday or Bank Holiday. Those little luxuries were scrapped about 9 years ago and despite petitions and complaints and anything else you can think of they have never reappeared.

    #65954

    wrexview
    Participant

    At the moment if you go up Grove Road towards the Grosvenor Road roundabout you can’t cross directly to Rhosddu Road , you have to turn left and go down to the Chester Road roundabout and come back up on the other side. If the bus is to go up Grove Road and directly across to Rhosddu Road then a new Bus Lane or Traffic Lights will need to be installed adding to an already busy junction.

    #65958

    lazyjack
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    A bus only connection will be made westbound with the Inner Ring Road managed by a bus gate. This will enable priority to be afforded to the Chester Road bus services. The scheme will not only reduce queuing times but also distance, shortening the route by 130m.

    So, from Chester to Wrexham, they are going to shorten the journey by 130 metres. Wow, what an improvement. And maybe 1 minute of time saved too. Who comes up with these ideas ?

    You could easily improve the Chester route with an express service once or twice an hour which uses the A483.

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