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  • #142906
    Councillor X
    Councillor X
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    A free car parking space is not a ‘tool of the trade’ that is required for someone to fulfill their job so unsure what Councillor X is referring to.

    My point is that parking has been reviewed plenty of times and top Managers and Councillors have kept their free parking while lower paid staff have had free parking removed or they have been moved to car parks in Crescent Road or Whitegate because they do not need to park close to where they work.

    What if a Councillor or Manager cannot park? They would be unable to attend meetings in time. Think about what happened in December. All car park places had gone very quickly and people could not park. If this happened to a Councillor then there would be chaos and an investigation.

    Free parking for the top men and women makes sense even if it means we have to cut other services or charge for parking in country parks and places like that.

    A hero is someone who understands the responsibility that comes with his freedom.

    #142907

    wrexview
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    The Guildhall car park is under used and is often almost empty. It divides easily into two areas, maybe the first step could be opening up half of it to the public daily. Have the Council calculated the potential income from such a proposal?

    #142911

    jimbow
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    Councillor X wrote.
    What if a Councillor or Manager cannot park? They would be unable to attend meetings in time. Think about what happened in December. All car park places had gone very quickly and people could not park. If this happened to a Councillor then there would be chaos and an investigation.

    I presume the car park behind the Guildhall which is barrier operated on weekdays and is used only for Council staff, will still be only available to Council staff. The only difference will be they will now have to pay. No such thing as not being able to park.

    • This reply was modified 4 months, 2 weeks ago by  jimbow.
    #142918
    Councillor X
    Councillor X
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    I presume the car park behind the Guildhall which is barrier operated on weekdays and is used only for Council staff, will still be only available to Council staff. The only difference will be they will now have to pay. No such thing as not being able to park.

    No, it will still be free for top officials and public barred until the weekend. The charges for the weekend are-
    Saturday and Sunday only
    63 spaces / 4 disabled
    0 – 1 hour – £1.00
    1 – 3 hours – £1.80

    They would only make a few thousand pounds if they had it open to the public in the week. I think it is a small price to pay.

    ALSO I think that the comment by sportsboy is not true
    “Using the car park to carry out duties is one thing but that privilege is abused by councillors just nipping in to town or even the Welsh pub ( Saith Seren ) FACT .”

    A hero is someone who understands the responsibility that comes with his freedom.

    #142928

    The Speaking Truth
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    Sportsboy may have a point, I’m sure there will be a lot of activity going on in the pub now one of our very own Plaid councillor is standing for election in Alyn and Deeside! What happened to her commitment to Wrexham? Career position springs to mind.

    #142930

    jimbow
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    I presume the car park behind the Guildhall which is barrier operated on weekdays and is used only for Council staff, will still be only available to Council staff. The only difference will be they will now have to pay. No such thing as not being able to park.

    No, it will still be free for top officials and public barred until the weekend. The charges for the weekend are-
    Saturday and Sunday only
    63 spaces / 4 disabled
    0 – 1 hour – £1.00
    1 – 3 hours – £1.80

    They would only make a few thousand pounds if they had it open to the public in the week. I think it is a small price to pay.

    ALSO I think that the comment by sportsboy is not true
    “Using the car park to carry out duties is one thing but that privilege is abused by councillors just nipping in to town or even the Welsh pub ( Saith Seren ) FACT .”

    If the 63 spaces were only used twice a day would bring in around £50k per year. The obvious change that would have to be made would be to change from short to long stay.

    #142945

    Council Watcher
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    Councillors normally attend meetings at set times and are very unlikely to be going in and out of the car park so I really cant see the argument that Councillor X is putting forward. The only ones who may have’urgent’ need for their car would be Members who had a role such as a Fireman and they were on call. Others should ise normal spaces like the rest of the workers in town.

    Councillor X is also valuing senior managers and Council Members above the actual workers who do the work whi get no perks.

    #142958

    Invisible
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    If Councillor X is not a wind up I’ll eat my hat. That attitude is deplorable and if that’s the train of thought throughout the chamber I feel there will be no difficult decisions made after all. Time management, useful tool when you need to be somewhere, work it like the rest of us.

    #142986

    bubble
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    If Councillor X is not a wind up I’ll eat my hat. That attitude is deplorable and if that’s the train of thought throughout the chamber I feel there will be no difficult decisions made after all. Time management, useful tool when you need to be somewhere, work it like the rest of us.

    I’d be interested to know whether Councillor X is winding us up.

    I don’t see why councillors should have reserved [&/or free] parking spaces. They will not be the only attendees at these meetings – if everyone else can get there on time then why can’t the councillors too?

    In the real world people with cars have to find their own parking spaces, often at significant personal expense, and have to allow extra time to find these parking spaces to ensure that they arrive in good time for meetings and/or normal working hours. I honestly cannot see why this shouldn’t be the case for councillors. It might even give them some insight into what life is like when you’re not a councillor.

    If they really can’t find a parking space, then they could travel to work by public transport – many of us do. That would probably give councillors some appreciation of how awful public transport is in Wrexham – but on the plus side they would not have to pay a parking fee.

    Mainly I think that councillors should not be given preferential treatment in any way over the rest of us plebs, and that they should be seen to be subject to the same rules as us, and that they should be eager to demonstrate how they are on a par with the general public.

    Many of us would like to be able to afford the convenience of a car – maybe we would be able to if we were given free parking too.

    • This reply was modified 4 months, 2 weeks ago by  bubble.
    #142990
    Councillor X
    Councillor X
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    Mainly I think that councillors should not be given preferential treatment in any way over the rest of us plebs, and that they should be seen to be subject to the same rules as us, and that they should be eager to demonstrate how they are on a par with the general public.

    Generally Councillors do a good job so what is wrong with them parking for free? They do not get paid much and you could not expect them to pay to come to work.
    So what if they go shopping or to the pub? They are supporting local businesses and the shopkeepers shoppers the Monday market landlords and people in the pub get to meet a Councillor and to talk to them.
    Maybe make top managers pay a small fee of 50p to park and then there is some income and it will stop all of the people moaning. I think jealousy plays a big part in this. They have something that other people want.

    A hero is someone who understands the responsibility that comes with his freedom.

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