coleg cambria – yale college from 01/08/13

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  • #55088

    Conde
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    @wxm 8117 wrote:

    Do you by any chance have the subjects / curriculum structure, the numbers of students that will be taught, the performance levels they’re aspiring to, catchment area, and any jobs and earning aspirations afterwards … also colleges tend to lean towards certain specialist fields, is this the case here, and how will students seeking other subject areas get tuition

    Sounds a lot, but being involved in the process, this might be to hand?

    No I don’t. After I left the governorship I removed everything as it was a breach of a confidentiality agreement I had with the colleges.

    I was never privy to any talk regarding jobs ( other than the new principal’s job). Staff and Student representatives are removed from the meeting when jobs are discussed, due to a vested interest/staff confidentiality.

    The number of students will literally be the two current numbers added up, perhaps you can account for a few % rise given the scale of the new college and the decline of sixth forms.

    The catchment area is pretty much North East Wales & parts of Cheshire.
    I don’t know excactly what deesides catchment area was, but Yale had students as far away as Bala and the outer tips of Cheshire.
    I’d imagine that Deeisde extends North to the coast. ( You also have to account for the fact that Deeside actually has 3 campuses.)

    When you talk about specialisms, you can have this as a rough guide.
    Yale had a strong academic footing.
    Bersham Road was by in large entirely vocational.
    Coleg Lysfasi ( part of Deeside college) is heavily agriculture/horticulture focused – it has a lot of students from Wrexham who wish to train in animal related courses (Uncommon in Wales)
    Wrexham Training is another vocational campus.
    Deeside and Northop also have their specialisms but I can’t remember exactly what they are.

    However, I know there will be a level of staff sharing what will extend expertise across the region.
    In terms of students accessing courses, I was with a girl from West Cheshire College who came to Yale for 3 classes a week in economics because WCC didn’t have the numbers to make the course viable. I’m sure this tradition will continue and in both directions.

    I hope you can appreciate that I was only a student governor and some of the questions there go against my confidentiality agreement hence I am refusing to answer them. Or it could be that I genuinely do not know the answer to particular questions.

    #55085

    wrexview
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    As Wrexham secondary schools are mainly 11 – 16 , Yale has always provided sixth form provision for the town. It is therefore very important that the academic standards are maintained on the ” Yale Campus”.

    #55093

    Alunh
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    @wxm 8117 wrote:

    Do you by any chance have the subjects / curriculum structure, the numbers of students that will be taught, the performance levels they’re aspiring to, catchment area, and any jobs and earning aspirations afterwards … also colleges tend to lean towards certain specialist fields, is this the case here, and how will students seeking other subject areas get tuition

    Sounds a lot, but being involved in the process, this might be to hand?

    You actually raise questions here which are fundamental to the community and which we all need to reflect on carefully with all of the relevant facts. We know, for example, that the only 2 secular English language based schools in Wrexham are currently in ‘Special Measures’ but how do we measure the success of Yale (now) and the new entity in the future.

    Often the responses about the success of Yale (now) are clichéd and lack adequate detail and the whole matter of evaluation/calibration has been problematic. Should we, for example, judge Yale and the new college by student numbers and size, by curriculum spread, by examination results, by % dropout, by anecdotal evidence, by repute or by any other criteria?

    This becomes a very difficult exercise. I too have heard excellent things about Mr Dhesi and his staff at Yale so that there does appear good anecdotal stuff out there. Equally, I look at the Yale part time courses and note a real lack of depth, especially at ‘A’ level. Many might think this is not a problem and that vocational courses are far more significant for the part timer. The problem with that argument is that Llandrillo offer a huge amount of ‘A’ level courses part time and it is clear that there are large numbers of individuals out there who might still want to undertake the gold standard academic qualification in their 20’s, 30’s or even later life. Most professions still look to ‘A’ levels as a yardstick and though there are, for example, Access courses available for, say, getting into University, these tend to be full time and don’t fit in with everyone’s scheduling ability.

    A quick comparison with Shrewsbury College (which I have taught in recently) can also be telling. Shrewsbury offer a multitude of ‘A’ level courses and many of these were organised on a distance learning basis to suit the needs of, say, disabled students (or others who could not always attend regularly).

    Accordingly, I endorse the questions that you ask and it would be fruitful if the community could indulge in a genuine debate about Secondary and FE education in the Borough and North East Wales

    #55094

    Iceman
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    Wrexham seems determined to destroy its history and the loss of the Yale name is just the latest in a long line of daft ideas and destruction of our heritage.

    #55099

    wxm
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    @Iceman 8335 wrote:

    Wrexham seems determined to destroy its history and the loss of the Yale name is just the latest in a long line of daft ideas and destruction of our heritage.

    Quite. You can’t remove history from DNA, that is what made us. You can’t remove Yale from Wrexham. Ask the late Eifion Ellis. The future will be dependent on good basic maths & English, and this will grow the future sciences, that will be based on the earths natural resources; and our need as a race to quickly face problems and find solutions. Engineering will be an enormous global future need, and the DNA of coal, steel & engineering in these parts gives us a head start by probably 1 or 2 decades. But competitive advantage never lasts for long!

    #55095

    Welsh Dresser
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    @Iceman 8335 wrote:

    Wrexham seems determined to destroy its history and the loss of the Yale name is just the latest in a long line of daft ideas and destruction of our heritage.

    I read somewhere, it might have been on here but I’m too lazy to check, that the Yale name will be kept as the campus name. The powers that be can call it whatever they want but the locals will keep the name alive.

    #55086

    Robotnik
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    I was under the impression that Coleg Cambria was more of an umbrella name. In the same way Glyndwr university is part of the university of Wales.

    #55089

    Y Ffin
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    The only issue i have is with the new logo – a real committee job and totally banal. Let’s hope the education on offer is more imaginative and attuned to the needs and aspirations of each individual student as well as wider society.

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