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    Darlofan
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    Got caught up in the chaos today due to bridge being closed. This got me thinking about the speed camera vans in the area. Considering the number of accidents on that bridge (some fatal) why when you see the camera van is it a mile up the road on the bridge above the dual carriageway part where there is never accidents? Rhetorical question!!

    #71743

    johnhoppy
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    Its a lot easier to catch people speeding in a place where it is safe to do so. Money Money.

    #71745

    Ferret
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    @johnhoppy 17994 wrote:

    Its a lot easier to catch people speeding in a place where it is safe to do so. Money Money.

    It was a rhetorical question.

    #71746

    sparky1
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    some people don’t know what “rhetorical” means? lol

    #71741

    Steve
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    Its hard to have a rhetorical question on a public forum…… May as well not post!

    Its even easier in the place you refer to as its a single caraway with an overtaking lane up the hill so the speed limit for cars is 60mph not 70mph.

    I am a little surprised regarding the bridge and people welcoming the temporary 40mph limit on there. The Thelwall Viaduct is 2×4 lanes using the same barrier style as the bridge in Chirk with a 70mph speed limit and people dont keep crashing on that. Maybe it’s the driving style and not the speed? Maybe if their is a need to teach people to drive by enforcement methods then double white lines over the bridge section could help?

    #71735

    Rob
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    On https://www.facebook.com/wrexhamdotcom there was a comment that even after the reopening and 40mph restrictions people were still trying to overtake, and someone else saying similar ” I got overtaken on the top. The Idiot nearly hit the cones as he darted back in line”

    #71737

    thunderbirdskid
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    Idiots can’t overtake in the face of oncoming traffic on the Thelwell Viaduct. Solid whites over the bridge and a permanently mounted CCTV camera to catch those who ignore it might help.

    #71742

    Steve
    Participant

    @thunderbirdskid 18013 wrote:

    Idiots can’t overtake in the face of oncoming traffic on the Thelwell Viaduct. Solid whites over the bridge and a permanently mounted CCTV camera to catch those who ignore it might help.

    So as I said…… It’s not the speed the kills, it’s the poor standard of driving. (I really hate the stupid ‘speed kills’ message it’s a media crock of crap). More people killed by bad/drink driving than speed.

    Don’t recall ever overtaking on the Chirk bridge, no escape if it goes wrong. Never keen going over there with the caravan as the wind catches it.

    Better than white lines and a camera option just put a barrier down the middle over the bridge section and leave the speed limit as national.

    #71739

    cmaj76
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    Speed camera’s and speed limits do not stop bad driving.

    Maybe a CCTV camera with recording would be better and next time it happens (there will be a next time). Whoever causes the crash can be prosecuted accordingly.

    #71736

    Born Acorn
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    CCTV would not have enough fidelity to record registration plates if one car fled the scene.

    The lanes are wide enough to put a physical barrier down the middle.

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