"Bloody Old Fool!"
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April 16, 2019 at 8:08 am #166814
Councillor XParticipantSo Councillor Morris has written to a person who lives in his ward to say sorry for being caught calling him a “bloody old fool”! It reminds me of Gordon Brown getting caught calling a Labour supporter a ‘bigoted woman’
If Michael can say that knowing there are cameras. what snidey comments does he make off-camera?
Councillor Morris should visit the gent and apologise to his face (whether he means it or not) or fall on his sword and quit.
Something similar happened to me in Wetherspoons where I was caught in the background of someone’s facetime where I called the person a “lazy git who doesn’t want a job”. When I saw him next time I bought him a pint and told him that I still think he is a lazy git and he agreed.
April 16, 2019 at 1:20 pm #166825
WrexhamUserParticipantMy concern is not so much as what was said, but how the council have dealt with it. I always thought that going back to official recordings, film footage of events, and photographs of things later considered politically questionable, and subsequently amending and deleting parts of them to make it wholly acceptable to those in power was only used during the era of Stalin’s tyranny in the Soviet Union.
April 16, 2019 at 3:16 pm #166843
MattParticipant[quote quote=166825]My concern is not so much as what was said, but how the council have dealt with it. I always thought that going back to official recordings, film footage of events, and photographs of things later considered politically questionable, and subsequently amending and deleting parts of them to make it wholly acceptable to those in power was only used during the era of Stalin’s tyranny in the Soviet Union.[/quote]
There is significant concern that the Council’s records and transparency of meetings is only of a transparent and complete nature when it spins the councillors and council in a positive light. Any bad disappears. Conveniently revisionist history is in play here – which I am loathe to draw this often overly used comparison – is very Orwellian in nature.
It was like the time the Kingdom – Zero Tolerance meeting was referenced as justification for the actions of Kingdom against the public in Wrexham. Then conveniently written meeting records contained no reference to zero tolerance in them and nobody could gain access to the video records of the meeting despite a number of FOI requests. It’s beggar belief that in this age of social media and open council meetings that they think nobody is going to want to refer back and fact check to make sure that everything is accurate.
The Councillor Objectionable Mental Health Comments video has now also conveniently expired:
Training to be offered to councillors after ‘disturbing’ planning committee comments
April 16, 2019 at 3:45 pm #166844
TransportuserParticipantIt’s completely wrong that history is being rewritten.
He said it and should live with the fact it was in the public domain.
It makes you wonder who is really the “Bloody Old Fool!”April 16, 2019 at 4:10 pm #166845
Councillor XParticipantIt wasn’t too long ago that Jeremy Corbyn denied calling Theresa May a ‘stupid woman’ so you would think that Councillors would be able to hold their tongues.
That reminds me of a time I was in a pub (not Wethers) and I told a rather rude man to hold his tongue and he DID! For over ten minutes until I explained that it was a figure of speech but then I had to explain what a ‘figure of speech’ was.
April 16, 2019 at 5:03 pm #166846
MattParticipant[quote quote=166845]
That reminds me of a time I was in a pub (not Wethers) and I told a rather rude man to hold his tongue and he DID! [/quote]Was it the Horse and Jockey? #PubGuessingGame
April 16, 2019 at 5:30 pm #166848
Ioan y FfinParticipantThe job of a councillor is to represent all their constituents; there is no requirement for them to be polite about them, polite to them or even agree with them. Although it does help to win votes. If people don’t like Cllr Morris, they can stand against him or vote for someone else at the next council election. He is quite entitled to call someone an ‘old fool’ if he wishes; it may not be nice, it may be an inaccurate summing up of his constituent’s character or it might be dead on. Generally I wouldn’t recommend quoting Magna Carta, it is a much misunderstood document. I would prefer Councillors to be honest rather than constantly looking over their shoulder or checking the microphones to see who is listening.
April 16, 2019 at 6:13 pm #166850
Councillor XParticipant[quote quote=166846]
That reminds me of a time I was in a pub (not Wethers) and I told a rather rude man to hold his tongue and he DID!
Was it the Horse and Jockey? #PubGuessingGame[/quote]
Matt it was …. NOT … the Horse and Jockey?
and in the spirit of Ioan y Ffin, you bloody old fool Matt!
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