Ambitious Plans to Increase Welsh Speakers in Wrexham Backed by Councillors

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  • #120753

    IMHO
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    Yes and (i am told) to the tune of £380,000. Is that what we want in the days when essential services are being cut back? Barmy!

    #120754

    beedar
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    Not a clue have they and the sad fact is they will never change

    #120755

    Nen
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    Yes and (i am told) to the tune of £380,000. Is that what we want in the days when essential services are being cut back? Barmy!

    What cost £380k? To draw up the plans or the funding to increase the number of Welsh speakers? If it’s the former then that’s a lot of money. If it’s the latter then it’s frankly not enough.

    #120765

    Council Watcher
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    No matter how much funding is thrown at trying to increase the number of Welsh speakers if there is not the will from individuals this will never happen and will be a waste of funding.
    It would appear that the only real way to make a difference would be through schools with Welsh being cumpulsory with through bilingual education.
    I believe one of the worst things that can happen is Welsh only schools — this level of segragation does nothing to encourage those from a non Welsh family background to engage. Segregation through the school system breeds a culture of seperation and not integration.

    #120767

    IMHO
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    So NEN, by your comment, it would appear you are not affected by the cuts to services, lucky you, but, it shows a lamentable lack of care for those that are.
    One area of cut backs is going to be the fire service so hope you don’t have a fire as your house may be gone before the fire service arrives. On the plus side though they may apologise to you in Welsh so that’ll please you no doubt.

    #120770

    TheSpectre
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    what ‘pot’ did this money appear from as our elected members keep saying budget cuts/no money etc politically correct no, politically inept yes, but hey the new arts hub will save us all as it will be the guiding light to draw in the massive crowds even though the powers that be have indicated it being a loss maker for at least four years.
    Yes Wrexham council keep spending taxpayers money on these good decisions (most made behind closed doors) as you know it makes sense

    #120771

    MargaretA
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    Bore da! This is another case of be careful what you wish for. By all means encourage the Welsh language and Welsh culture, but will the next stage be to insist that all business literature, forms,before advertising etc has to be in Welsh or bi-lingual, thereby increasing costs? Perhaps then I will open my new factory just over the border. As another poster has pointed out, there has to be a will from the people. I thought Welsh was compulsory in school to 16. Has this now changed?

    #120772

    IMHO
    Participant

    No matter how much funding is thrown at trying to increase the number of Welsh speakers if there is not the will from individuals this will never happen and will be a waste of funding.
    It would appear that the only real way to make a difference would be through schools with Welsh being cumpulsory with through bilingual education.
    I believe one of the worst things that can happen is Welsh only schools — this level of segragation does nothing to encourage those from a non Welsh family background to engage. Segregation through the school system breeds a culture of seperation and not integration.

    It’s already compulsory.

    Teaching Welsh as a second language is about as useful to a pupil as an ash tray on a motorbike.
    Teach a second language yes but, Welsh? Try using that in a business meeting in Germany or France et al.
    and they will not stand a chance of being understood whereas using English or even French there would be.

    It’s all barmy, a waste of the pupil’s time and effort plus a waste of much needed money but the delusional politicians/Councillors amongst us continue to force the issue.

    If the Welsh want to keep their language alive they should, instead of compulsion, (a measure that any banana republic dictator would be proud of) try “encouraging” youngsters/adults to learn it through appeals to their Welsh nationalistic pride and if that fails then they don’t want it enough and it should be allowed to die out which, is actually, what is happening now.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3083996/Pupils-Wales-held-taught-Welsh-Principal-leading-private-school-attacks-narrow-minded-people-call-teaching-language.html

    #120775
    Owain Glyndwr
    Owain Glyndwr
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    FACT: Welsh is in fourth place behind English, Polish and Portuguese in the languages spoken in Wrexham.

    Perhaps we should invest to save our past and preserve the future of the Welsh Language ….

    To be born Welsh is to be born privileged, not with a silver spoon in your mouth, but with music in your blood, and poetry in your soul.

    #120780
    Rob
    Rob
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    FACT: Welsh is in fourth place behind English, Polish and Portuguese in the languages spoken in Wrexham.

    That comment was made in a meeting by Cllr Hugh Jones and made headlines – but when checked it was not the case, http://www.wrexham.com/news/wrexham-data-clarity-english-welsh-spoken-first-then-polish-and-portuguese-103100.html

    Last week he distanced himself from those comments as well https://www.wrexham.com/news/wrexham-council-ready-to-rise-to-challenge-increase-number-of-welsh-speakers-back-to-2001-levels-120435.html

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