£900k Spent on Groves School Maintenance

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  • #105870

    The Monitor
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    Thank you.

    #105871

    The Monitor
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    I am totally, utterly in contempt of the executive board members (lower case deliberate). Their name are noted, and a history of their decisions from last year onwards will be catalogued. It will be published when the next Council elections come around with a view to engineering their defeat.

    I agree with a previous comment by a Member of these forums that the executive board be disbanded at the earliest opportunity, even if that means an immediate election.

    Hands up those who wish to rid the people of Wrexham of this bunch of philistines!

    #105886

    zinger
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    Wrexham Councillors have a history of approving the demolition of buildings which we, the electorate wish to conserve. Does everyone remember how they wanted to demolish the War Memorial Hospital for a supermarket.

    #105892

    The Monitor
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    What happened to the BATS? Or is our philistine council allowed to ignore where others have to obey.
    Why was the decision dripped out little by little to the public. This was a deliberately executed plan to keep the ultimate target (demolition) hidden from the public.

    Keep your sights trained on these conniving misplaced men.

    #105901

    Andrewmackembailey
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    [quote quote=105851]It is a crying shame that the Groves School has been left the rot and now the Council (elected by the people) think they can single headedly demolish a beautiful historic building, yet again blowing away attractive architecture from the heart of Wrexham. If the Councillors and those working within the council on behalf of the electorate are not up to the job, then a third party should be brought in to examine the business case for a new school taking into consideration the catchment area, traffic planning, bus routes and so forth. Personally, having witnessed day after day all the fetching and carrying in cars to and from schools and the transport hassle created, the school should be built on a brown field industrial site close to the edge of town to the highest standards we can afford. Transport routes would be simpler and other anti-social problems minimised. The beautiful Groves building could be turned into very nice apartments of varying sizes with lots of parking for residents and visitors alike. Of course, my idea would need a decent sized purse from a property developer, but it is possible.

    This solution I proposed would keep the facade at least and remove the traffic issues from the centre of town that is already bulging at the seams and certainly not a nice prospect getting around between 8.30 and 10.00 and 2.30pm – 6.00pm.

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    My point entirely. The development plan the council is working on does identify the need for 10,5oo-11,000 new dwellings up to 2028 and Wrexham town is top of the hierarchy ( see report to Planning committee 4\1\2016 ). It also say infrastucture such as new school, Health centres and the like should be as close to the “New Build” to prevent excess car journeys and the strain on the highways network. To add another school run or more to this area of town ,when new build is likely elsewhere is sheer lunacy ,leaving aside the “municipal vandalism ” supported by the executive board .

    #105926

    DerekJackson
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    Could someone please explain how a building that has been closed for 13 years suddenly has an asbestos problem as the Leader of the Council stated this morning– as a duty of care should this nit have been known from day one when it was first moth balled — if it is an issue now was it an issue when pupils where there during the rebuilding of Clywedog and Rhosnessni. How many pupils and teachers have been contaminated over the years?
    Emotion wont keep this building open!! What should be investigated is the health of those that have used the school over the years.

    #105939

    MP1953
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    [quote quote=105926]Could someone please explain how a building that has been closed for 13 years suddenly has an asbestos problem as the Leader of the Council stated this morning– as a duty of care should this nit have been known from day one when it was first moth balled — if it is an issue now was it an issue when pupils where there during the rebuilding of Clywedog and Rhosnessni. How many pupils and teachers have been contaminated over the years?
    Emotion wont keep this building open!! What should be investigated is the health of those that have used the school over the years.

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    As I understand it, Asbestos has never has been a problem unless it is disturbed i.e. cut up, drilled, damaged or whatever, it is the dust from the asbestos that is the problem, that is why it is a specialised job to remove it, there are probably loads of schools, buildings etc. around that are still made up of asbestos..

    #105941

    Sheefag
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    I would be one of the first to castigate the council on ruining the historic look of the town.
    Take a look at the deliberate destruction Bridge St and Penybryn for a start.

    However, the Groves School, to my eyes at least, has always appeared rather blank and utilitarian with little or no architectural merit.

    What exactly are people trying to save here exactly and why?

    #105949

    Rex Ham
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    Shefag, I think the merit is on the inside as much as anything, with an art deco staircase and hallway as would be expected in a 1930’s building.

    However, to demolish any landmark building like this is an act of civic vandalism.

    I also think Councillor Pritchard is more than a little disingenuous when he says there has been no rush to make this decision. Whilst the building has been empty for q number of years, the move to demolish it has never been on the public agenda until the last couple of weeks. That’s the rush councillor.

    #105951

    LadyK
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    Reference the pupils who spent time there in recent years, St Joseph’s High School pupils were there whilst their current building was being refurbished.

    The building is as indeed a landmark building and one of significant internal architectural significance, not only that it’s what’s going to go in it’s place or building reused as taking into account the known changes in traffic and people movements.

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