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    wrexview
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    Why are developers in Wrexham always allowed to provide the smallest possible size of accommodation. Twenty- one flats ( reduced from 23) which the planning department acknowledge as small. That’s 21 tiny spaces to live in with no outside space/storage. Are they really allowing the bins/ recycling for 21 different flats probably over 40 people to be stored inside a small area near a staircase ? Is a high density development really suitable for these buildings ?

    #195273

    JaneJ
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    More bins in the passageway by St Giles — eyesore, eyesore and more eyesore

    #195274

    BenjaminM
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    You may or may not be aware wrexview that there are national standards for the size of rooms and if the proposals conform to them, why should permission be refused?
    You introduce the word ‘tiny’ into your post, what evidence do you have for that?
    Offa Community Council have a recurrent theme to any proposal – object – usually for the most tenuous of reasons.
    In today’s climate where there are many homeless people or others struggling to find accommodation, surely this development could go some way to partially alleviate the problem.
    An as for JaneJ’s comment, surely you can do better than that!

    #195281

    zinger
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    Better flats than the houses of multiple occupancy which contributed to the Wrexham coronavirus spike but I do agree that high density development isn’t a good idea.

    What are your thoughts Benjamins on bins & recycling in this area. JaneJ makes a valid point. I hope that this has been taken into consideration.

    Planning consents in future need to bear all these considerations in mind.

    #195284

    BenjaminM
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    Zinger, I refer you to the penultimate paragraph of wrexham.com’s report on the matter. “Whilst there are genuine concerns…….a condition of any permission”

    No problem is insurmountable given the will to find a solution by both parties agreeing.
    Yet, I still consider this to be a minor inconvenience when balanced against the advantages of housing provision for those that are not able to enter the housing market at an unaffordable level.

    It is widely considered that town centre accommodation is becoming the new norm mainly because of the slow demise of town centre shopping facilities. Virtually on every occasion I would welcome vacant properties being brought back into use for alternative uses to what they were originally designated for.

    #195291

    Ioan y Ffin
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    National housing standards do not apply to office conversions as allowed under housing legislation. If there are as many windows to the rear of the property as on the front, it should work out at roughly one window per apartment. Having not seen the plans, I don’t know if the window is in the living/kitchen area or the bathroom/toilet or the bedroom of each apartment. I am guessing that not even developers describe a ‘study bedroom’ as an apartment, but who knows?

    The best way to get planning permission as a developer is to draw up two set of plans. Plan A – a ‘fake’ proposal where you say you want to squeeze in say between two and five more apartments into a building/houses onto a plot than is almost physically possible. This is the plan you initially submit. Meanwhile you work on Plan B with your design team, QS,suppliers, contractors etc on a scheme involving fewer properties or apartments, knowing full well that Plan B is very profitable, while Plan A should it get passed means bonuses all-round and party time!!

    We need more housing, but it should be focused on the needs of people who need homes, not the developers’ profit margins.

    p.s. this approach does not apply to an individual wanting to build their own home. You will be treated like dirt, made to leap through a thousand hoops and forced to make loads of changes that are never imposed on big developers with lawyers. Suck it up!!

    #195292

    Ioan y Ffin
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    It is a sad fact that the planners and the developers seem more worried about the conditions for the recycling bins than for the people who will actually be squeezed like sardines into these apartments

    #195307

    Captain C
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    The flats may not be fit for purpose but neither is Wrexham Planning Dept’ with all the excuses they make for their lack of professional standards.

    #195308

    wrexview
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    One window per flat? This is the 21st Century surely we should be doing better than that. Hope Councillors look carefully at the layout and design of these “flats” before making a decision on the development. Would be useful to know the square footage of each flat .

    #195312

    Ioan y Ffin
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    In many European countries it is illegal to offer properties for sale without stating the accurate floor space in square metres of the property so that you know exactly how much house you are buying. For some reason we persist with the bizarre system of detailing length and breadth of each room, which makes any instant comparison near impossible. Probably the National Housebuilders Federation have lobbied hard to ensure no one can quickly tell how small their rabbit hutches are.

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